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  • Advancedynamix
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    Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
    "Cheap" like milling a head (but you have to buy a gasket, expensive) or "easy" drop it off with your favorite builder
    with a box of cash.
    Beyond the tweaks the guys have noted, the simplest is the Capri swap, keep your trans, the car will be a hoot to
    drive and will run even on the poorest gasoline.
    You can substitute a 1600 Miata motor but will need come Capri parts for ease and simplicity.
    It's not better than sex. but it will put the same grin on your face.
    Yeah, and you can do it to as many Festivas as you like without the negative moral repercussions. In fact, the more you've done it to, the better it gets and people tend to hold you at higher regard. :p
    Last edited by Advancedynamix; 04-18-2015, 06:28 AM.

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  • Dragonhealer
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    "Cheap" like milling a head (but you have to buy a gasket, expensive) or "easy" drop it off with your favorite builder
    with a box of cash.
    Beyond the tweaks the guys have noted, the simplest is the Capri swap, keep your trans, the car will be a hoot to
    drive and will run even on the poorest gasoline.
    You can substitute a 1600 Miata motor but will need come Capri parts for ease and simplicity.
    It's not better than sex. but it will put the same grin on your face.

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  • TominMO
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    Originally posted by jhonmax12 View Post
    Regular preventive maintenance is probably the single thing you can do as a car owner to keep your ride happy and save money on repairs in the future. However, not everyone agrees on what preventive maintenance is, what you should do, and when you should do it. Let's clear that up, and give you some tips that'll apply to any vehicle.
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    PREVENTATIVE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE
    Huh? That's not what this thread is about.

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  • Chobobulous
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    Link is broken.

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  • jhonmax12
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    Regular preventive maintenance is probably the single thing you can do as a car owner to keep your ride happy and save money on repairs in the future. However, not everyone agrees on what preventive maintenance is, what you should do, and when you should do it. Let's clear that up, and give you some tips that'll apply to any vehicle.
    ………………………………………………….

    PREVENTATIVE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE

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  • Dragonhealer
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    Sorry about the typos,
    please note that adjusting the AFM will change all other air/fuel adjustments some.

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  • Dragonhealer
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    Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
    Pop the black cover off and there is a spring tension adjustment. There is also a bypass screw iirc. It's under the aluminum plug.
    Charlie! You said too much or not enough!
    Ok, for those who must, DON'T do this with out a dyno or fast wide band!
    To get the cover off with out destroying everything, first use a hook pick or other small tool to carefully remove the silicone seallant around the edge of the cover, be careful as the cover is under the sealant as well and is very thin/fragile. Remove one screw holding in the electricle connector, don't lose it! Then put on safety glasses and gloves, holding a rag over the cover with your gloved hand, blow compressed air with a rubber tip blow nozzle in small dosses, just "bumping" the valve untill one edge comes loose, then hold that edge down and blow some more and thr cover will come loose.
    At this point, MARK the face of the toothed adjuster wheel where the spring lock engages a tooth.
    If you are careful with this delicate instrument, you can ease back the lock and move the toothed wheel. clockwise is leaner

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  • Advancedynamix
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    Originally posted by TominMO View Post
    That's really interesting. One of the reasons I was thinking of going to MS on my Festy was to get rid of the VAF, for better intake airflow. I had assumed that the small opening in the VAF was a big restrictor to the system; but apparently not?

    As far as drilling the holes, it made a giant difference in my 1990 Subaru Loyale, which had an airbox intake no larger than the Festy's, even tho it was a 1.8L motor! Above 3500 it really woke up after the airbox mod. Maybe not so much for Festys, but there may be some benefit; plus it's free and sounds cooler.

    How do you adjust the VAF?
    Pop the black cover off and there is a spring tension adjustment. There is also a bypass screw iirc. It's under the aluminum plug.

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  • TominMO
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    Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
    I know a certain someone who made more HP on a dyno with a Festy VAF on his Miata ( miniscule amount) so don't bother with the VAF. I think they both use the same code VAF anyway.

    Advance the cam timing, advance the ignition a tad, ditch the cat, 2" exhaust and adjust the VAF on a dyno to make up for the added efficiency from the exhaust. Any other work will be a waste of time since your swapping the engine anyway. Some people swear that drilling the air box helps hp, but I haven't seen dyno results from this.
    Your best bet is the just put the 16v engine in as soon as you can, even on the stock tranny.
    Originally posted by F3BZ View Post
    i seem to remember it said or was proven that the stock VAF could easily outflow the stock TB. i could go out and look but i'm thinking the stock VAF on my 1.8 escort has the same openings as the festiva VAF and will still outflow the 1.8 TB. even the miata forums discourage the taller RX7 VAF for all but the most radical builds.
    That's really interesting. One of the reasons I was thinking of going to MS on my Festy was to get rid of the VAF, for better intake airflow. I had assumed that the small opening in the VAF was a big restrictor to the system; but apparently not?

    As far as drilling the holes, it made a giant difference in my 1990 Subaru Loyale, which had an airbox intake no larger than the Festy's, even tho it was a 1.8L motor! Above 3500 it really woke up after the airbox mod. Maybe not so much for Festys, but there may be some benefit; plus it's free and sounds cooler.

    How do you adjust the VAF?

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  • jhonmax12
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    Regular preventive maintenance is probably the single thing you can do as a car owner to keep your ride happy and save money on repairs in the future. However, not everyone agrees on what preventive maintenance is, what you should do, and when you should do it. Let's clear that up, and give you some tips that'll apply to any vehicle.
    ………………………………………………….

    PREVENTATIVE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE

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  • Dragonhealer
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    "I think they both use the same code VAF anyway"

    I can not find a difference between them, on the bench or dyno, except where the base setting is, 1.3 vs 1.6 Miata code "S" Festiva code "T"

    "i seem to remember it said or was proven that the stock VAF could easily outflow the stock TB. i could go out and look but i'm thinking the stock VAF on my 1.8 escort has the same openings as the festiva VAF and will still outflow the 1.8 TB. even the miata forums discourage the taller RX7 VAF for all but the most radical builds. "

    Yup.

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  • Advancedynamix
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    ^yup

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  • TominMO
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    Originally posted by F3BZ View Post
    drill the airbox regardless. the added growl at least makes you think its got more power.
    Fixed it.

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  • F3BZ
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    i seem to remember it said or was proven that the stock VAF could easily outflow the stock TB. i could go out and look but i'm thinking the stock VAF on my 1.8 escort has the same openings as the festiva VAF and will still outflow the 1.8 TB. even the miata forums discourage the taller RX7 VAF for all but the most radical builds.
    drill the VAF regardless. the added growl at least makes you think its got more power.

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  • Advancedynamix
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    I know a certain someone who made more HP on a dyno with a Festy VAF on his Miata ( miniscule amount) so don't bother with the VAF. I think they both use the same code VAF anyway.

    Advance the cam timing, advance the ignition a tad, ditch the cat, 2" exhaust and adjust the VAF on a dyno to make up for the added efficiency from the exhaust. Any other work will be a waste of time since your swapping the engine anyway. Some people swear that drilling the air box helps hp, but I haven't seen dyno results from this.
    Your best bet is the just put the 16v engine in as soon as you can, even on the stock tranny.
    Last edited by Advancedynamix; 03-22-2015, 02:15 PM.

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