Power Commender III

[Advancedynamix]

In a cool, dry place of coarse.

[sketchman]

Where do you place the flux capacitor for maximum flux capacitance?

[FestYboy]

Any wobbling or grinding noise should be considered normal.

[Advancedynamix]

Yes, and it should be calibrated using test TE-10 from the service manual/songbook

[FestYboy]

The proper tuning of the turbo encabulator is essential.

[Advancedynamix]

And side fumbling of the lunar wing shaft Arty, can't forget that!

[FestYboy]

Yes I was a bit too general in my previous statement, my apologies. Reciprocating tensile strength comes into play as well as air flow management, harmonics (as stated by Charlie), rotating mass and balance, fuel control, bearing, thrust, ring, spring, and piston rock tolerance, etc. etc. etc.

[mikemounlio]

You the MAN

[Advancedynamix]

Sorry to thread jack but i would love to (like my list will ever end) set up one of my b6t's to have super high revs. Advancedynamix any chance you could PM me some ideas or thoughts? I might need more rpm in Lucifer.

I'll post up a little addendum to the "DOHC b6 information thread" with some of what I've learned so far.

[Festiver]

^what William said. An FMU will work or you can use a BPT ECM. They are fairly common and have come down in price since people started using megasquirt or the new option from BP specialties. Still plenty of potential to rip the treads off your blizzaks though, lol.

(^the whole adapter thing for the shaft not trans sorry bout that) and bpt ecm? K03 is a really small turbo what would i have to do to make a bpt ecm think it's actually a bpt vs. a bp with a tiny turbo also what about rocket man ecms

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[mikemounlio]

In order to have a happy and reliable B series engine that is regularly pushed over 8k, you'll need to do a lot more than lighten and balance a few things. These engines aren't designed for that. They are harmonically unstable above 6500rpm. An ATI damper does wonders and there are a few internal tricks that we have had luck with.
You definitely don't want to build a high rpm BP. They are a great mid range engine, but running them past 7200 is a recipe for trouble.
The zl-de (jdm 1.5 dohc) is a better choice from what I can tell. I've got one that I need to tear into in order to see what I'm working with. It's got the same bore as the b6, but a shorter stroke. This is a step in the right direction for stability at higher revs.
As far as I know, you can't just wire a power commander into anything, it doesn't work like that. It's a device that piggybacks the factory ECU and fools it into being tunable. It is specific to the ecu it was meant for. I don't know if there is enough tunability with a power commander to tune a 600 system to run an 1800 engine with a drastically different TQ curve. I'm not going to tell you that it's impossible (I've seen crazier things happen) but it's very far fetched.
If you have a BP and a g15mr already then put it in and enjoy it stock. You'll have a blast. Put a simple turbo on it and make 220hp and enjoy having a better power to weight ratio than almost every car on the road while still being able to carry lots of crap in the back and park in any spot you find.
A wide TQ curve with extremely high Rev limit is what these cars need to be unbeatable at the track. Heck, I could have passed way more cars in Tweak with an 8k rpm peak. But, for the street or autocross 6200 is just fine if your gearing and tire size is correct.

Sorry to thread jack but i would love to (like my list will ever end) set up one of my b6t's to have super high revs. Advancedynamix any chance you could PM me some ideas or thoughts? I might need more rpm in Lucifer.

[Festiver]

You said you have a adapter plate for the bp to g series? It's bolt up no plate needed.
As for low boost 12.1 fmu.
I don't have much knowledge with boosted engines but someone can help here I'm sure.

Oh sorry it's for the xr2 intermediate shaft it's not as long as the protege shaft


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[Advancedynamix]

^what William said. An FMU will work or you can use a BPT ECM. They are fairly common and have come down in price since people started using megasquirt or the new option from BP specialties. Still plenty of potential to rip the treads off your blizzaks though, lol.

[william]

You said you have a adapter plate for the bp to g series? It's bolt up no plate needed.
As for low boost 12.1 fmu.
I don't have much knowledge with boosted engines but someone can help here I'm sure.

[Festiver]

In order to have a happy and reliable B series engine that is regularly pushed over 8k, you'll need to do a lot more than lighten and balance a few things. These engines aren't designed for that. They are harmonically unstable above 6500rpm. An ATI damper does wonders and there are a few internal tricks that we have had luck with.
You definitely don't want to build a high rpm BP. They are a great mid range engine, but running them past 7200 is a recipe for trouble.
The zl-de (jdm 1.5 dohc) is a better choice from what I can tell. I've got one that I need to tear into in order to see what I'm working with. It's got the same bore as the b6, but a shorter stroke. This is a step in the right direction for stability at higher revs.
As far as I know, you can't just wire a power commander into anything, it doesn't work like that. It's a device that piggybacks the factory ECU and fools it into being tunable. It is specific to the ecu it was meant for. I don't know if there is enough tunability with a power commander to tune a 600 system to run an 1800 engine with a drastically different TQ curve. I'm not going to tell you that it's impossible (I've seen crazier things happen) but it's very far fetched.
If you have a BP and a g15mr already then put it in and enjoy it stock. You'll have a blast. Put a simple turbo on it and make 220hp and enjoy having a better power to weight ratio than almost every car on the road while still being able to carry lots of crap in the back and park in any spot you find.
A wide TQ curve with extremely high Rev limit is what these cars need to be unbeatable at the track. Heck, I could have passed way more cars in Tweak with an 8k rpm peak. But, for the street or autocross 6200 is just fine if your gearing and tire size is correct.

You said "put a simple turbo on"? Will a bp and bp10 ecu run like 3-5 psi without add on engine management? I'm thinking now about doing the zl swap on the festiva im looking into buying as it's in perfect shape ill make that a summer track based so thatll have a much bigger budget vs. the winter car also I looked into how the PC works it just uses the injector wires tps and rpm and fattens or leans out the original signal or with the boost add on itll give the amount of fuel you want per psi and such the only part that's missing would be ignition retarding

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