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    ok i may have the chance to buy a new stiva. its a 91 GL with a 5 spd. thats about all i know. except the guy who has it thinks the timing belt broke. now i know that some engines tear up when the belt breaks. does the festiva engine do that? if it does, doesn't it drop a couple of valves through pistons? i'll probably still buy it anyway, just want to make sure what i'm getting into.
    89 L, hopefully returning from the dead soon with a little more power...
    http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...77-my-89-build
    92 integra, daily driver, broke a clutch disc, sold
    New dd, 02 Nissan sentra, 1.8 5 spd

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    Buy it anyway and save another festiva from the wrecking yards
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    BUILD'EM CHEAP, RUN'EM HARD, REPAIR'EM DAILY!


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    • #3
      festiva's & i think mazda motors in general are non-interferance engines. SO the valves should be fine.

      from:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_B_engine


      The Mazda B engine family is a four cylinder SOHC and DOHC engine family ranging from 1.1 L to 1.8 L. It was designed for front-wheel drive economy car applications but was later modified for the turbocharged full-time 4WD 323 GTX and rear-wheel drive Miata as well as numerous other models. Unusually for a (relatively) modern engine, the B-series is "non-interference", meaning that breakage of its timing belt does not result in damage to valves or pistons, because the opening of the valves, the depth of the combustion chamber and (in some variants) the shaping of the piston crown allow sufficient clearance for the open valves in any possible piston position.
      It's a good thing you don't read the stickies, you might of learned something.Poverty produces creativity

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      • #4
        ^ yes this is a non interference engine. I dropped a timing key which made me jump time and I replaced the key, reset the timing and I was back in business. I love a non-interference engine. I would check the oil for water and the water for oil. What makes him think it needs a timing belt?
        youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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        • #5
          no idea, it just quit on him and he said he thinks its the timing belt. idk. is the water/oil thing common? i know my dads car is like that (90 L) but mine doesn't even have rust in the water.
          89 L, hopefully returning from the dead soon with a little more power...
          http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...77-my-89-build
          92 integra, daily driver, broke a clutch disc, sold
          New dd, 02 Nissan sentra, 1.8 5 spd

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          • #6
            take off the dist cap and crank. If the rotor dosent rotate = broken timing belt. If it is broken no worries. Mine broke and i cranked on it several times trying to diagnose it before i realized it was the belt. I put on a new belt i was good to go. Its probably a good idea to replace the water pump while your in there too.

            go for it!
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            RIP 90LX

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            • #7
              If you decide not to buy it let me know. I would love to have a 5 spd.

              David

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              • #8
                oh i'll definitely buy it--if the guy calls me back. i'm not sure if he wants to sell it or not. it didn't have a for sale sign on it, but he's got my number so if he wants to he'll call me i guess. hope he does!!
                89 L, hopefully returning from the dead soon with a little more power...
                http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...77-my-89-build
                92 integra, daily driver, broke a clutch disc, sold
                New dd, 02 Nissan sentra, 1.8 5 spd

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                • #9
                  pull the top of the timing belt cover towards the fender a little bit and have someone turn the moter over and see if the cam pulley spins.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by geezerstiva
                    oh i'll definitely buy it--if the guy calls me back. i'm not sure if he wants to sell it or not. it didn't have a for sale sign on it, but he's got my number so if he wants to he'll call me i guess. hope he does!!
                    lol. i did the same thing with our 91 gl. it was at a shop and we walked in and offered the guy $650 for it.
                    no more festy but im lookin
                    87 AE86 GTS 13b swap
                    92 Escort GT

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                    • #11
                      ^ I do that all the time. Except I offer $50. Then get it for $100 or $150.
                      youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                      • #12
                        well, its been a week now, i'm guessing he wont sell. any one else got a FI festy they want to sell?
                        89 L, hopefully returning from the dead soon with a little more power...
                        http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...77-my-89-build
                        92 integra, daily driver, broke a clutch disc, sold
                        New dd, 02 Nissan sentra, 1.8 5 spd

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                        • #13
                          Ask about it again. It took me three attempts to buy Redford with a couple of months in between. Then they finally sold it to me for the first price I offered of $200. Doh, I should have offered less. It sticks in their mind, " that guy came by and asked about the festiva again" Give them your phone # again. Tell them you were afraid they might have lost it. This time of year people get strapped for cash. Ask on the right day and it could be yours. Do some reverse selling. (aggressive buying. )
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                          Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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                          • #14
                            That's what I do. Ask, ask again, and ask a 3rd time. Persistence pays!
                            youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                            • #15
                              Or make a low ball offer while flashing him the cash.

                              David

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