Lifters

[TominMO]

So the atf is supposed to clean sticking lifters or is it swelling the seals to stop leakdown?

The ATF acts as a thinner, so it cleans the lifters if they have any gunk built up in them.

[tooldude]

So the atf is supposed to clean sticking lifters or is it swelling the seals to stop leakdown?

[TorqueEffect]

My lifters have been extremely noisy lately too.

I think I will put a little bit of ATF in my fresh oil change and see what happens. Just a little though, since of course atf is not formulated to run in a crankcase where it is exposed to blowby gasses.

[skeeters_keeper]

Zinc. Let's all say it together now, Zinc.

I have no idea what "Zink" is but I'm pretty sure it doesn't belong in your oil.

[Movin]

I like this stuff..http://www.zoro.com/i/G5095991/?gcli...FdGCfgods74ASg

ATF has great cleaning properties.

[drddan]

Alright! .... Freakin' alright!

I added some ATF the to the oil, on the advice of William, and the lifter SHUT UP!!!!!!! Weeeee Yeah!!!! :mrgreen:
Running well and test drove it. Good power and no smoking with the $100 Aspire engine that is in it.

Still has small issues to work out (no temp gauge reading, erratic high idle, etc) But she's on the road again!!!!

[Movin]

That motorweek read is about right. On engines that use the distributor to drive oil pumps, zink is needed for those gears. Unless you use better than OEM gears. I have been hearing that 1000 ppm is about the lower limit. I disagree about the break in period , my opinion based on failures is that it is critical during break in and needed to prevent excessive wear after.

[Pu241]

http://www.motorweek.org/features/goss_garage/too_much_zinc_in_your_oil

[lessersivad]

And this is yet another reason I use Mobil delvac 15w40 in all of my engines from my lawn mower to my '85 GMC with a 6.2.

[Movin]

It is almost done being phased out of on road oil. Diesel rated oil still has it and racing oil is loaded up just like old times.. I think the real reason is even though we eat zink as a vitamin it causes problems in emission systems. Some engines are especially prone to oil consumption. When these engines burn oil the zink if present reduces the catalytic converter performance until they cease to convert anything.

It is bunk because oil burning will eventually become excessive enough to prevent the cat from lighting off anyway. But the argument has been made that to improve air quality we need to put as many of the populace driving older cars into newer cars or better yet the transit system.

Then the same greenies ban management practices to keep wilderness and monument area forests healthy and we are forced to breath forest fire smoke all summer.

You can buy zink in several formulations to add to any oil.

[drddan]

does anyone else think the government would be interested in removing zink from oil, for the sole purpose of getting the old vehicles off the road, so they can put us in newer vehicles with more tracking capabilites.

Hmmm .... that is one possibility

Run zink in your oil and this problem will not happen. When the guv forced lead from fuel we lost lots of engines and cars to wrecking yards because valves and seats burned. Now they are going to do it again by removing zink from motor oil. This will send lots more cars and engines to wrecking yards because of cam and lifter failure. All the engines that have decent valve spring pressure and non-roller engines. Almost all new engines are roller lifter and removing the zink has no affect, only older non roller engines. Bunk !!!

Is this an additional additive, added along with the oil?

[bhearts]

does anyone else think the government would be interested in removing zink from oil, for the sole purpose of getting the old vehicles off the road, so they can put us in newer vehicles with more tracking capabilites.

[bhearts]

where do you get "zink for engine oil at"

[Movin]

Run zink in your oil and this problem will not happen. When the guv forced lead from fuel we lost lots of engines and cars to wrecking yards because valves and seats burned. Now they are going to do it again by removing zink from motor oil. This will send lots more cars and engines to wrecking yards because of cam and lifter failure. All the engines that have decent valve spring pressure and non-roller engines. Almost all new engines are roller lifter and removing the zink has no affect, only older non roller engines. Bunk !!!

[zoe60]

I got a set for mine about a year ago and haven't heard a single tick since. About $50.00 for all of them IIRC.