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  • A B6, a turbo, and a long, cold winter.

    This post is to I can start asking questions about adding forced induction to an otherwise stock B6 setup. I understand the mechanics of it: engine + turbo + extra plumbing + extra fuel needed + some electronic doo-hickeys.

    What I don't understand is some of the how and why. How does one compensate for the added air volume utilizing the existing fuel system? Air metering; how's that handled? Rising rate fuel pressure regulation....all that sort of stuff.

    Any pointer y'all can offer would be appreciated. Links, insights, advice, stern warnings...I'll take anything.

    Jim

  • #2
    I am going to venture into the same arena myself monkey. I picked up the turbo already, and just got back the cleaned fuel injectors from WitchHunter Performance. I pulled both of these items from an 87 Mazda 323 B6T, so I figured I would be safe with the turbo and the injectors. I just needed to understand the details with the questions you posted. I've installed a Vortec S-Trim supercharger on my 331 Stroker Mustang, but it was pretty much a kit, so I didn't have to figure much out. I have been looking for a B6T ecu though...I figured that would be safe to install as well if I am doing the turbo.
    90 Festiva with Brand new B3, 5spd
    92 B6 Festiva, 5spd
    94 Mustang DSS 331, Vortec S-Trim, 5 spd
    94 Mustang GT, stock, automatic

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    • #3
      I'm pretty lucky in one way: the friend who's giving me the turbo and plumbing is a Ford tech. He'll be helping get me set up, but there are still questions about air metering in particular. We'll just have to share anything we discover.

      Fastivaca sent me a really good link, too http://tinyurl.com/yud3t2

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      • #4
        Hey Monkey,

        That looks like a good link. Thanks to Fastivaca for finding that. I guess my goals with the turbo are probably a little different than most. I just want a little extra power for passing and hauling. I often carry lumber, tile saws, miter saws, table saws, Large drills, tile, mortar, grout and just about any other heavy item you can think of. I plan on putting a boost controller on there and setting it to 6 or 7. I DO NOT want to hurt the engine at all. If I wanted to go really fast, I would do it in my stang hehehe.

        You are lucky to have a friend that is a ford tech. Hopefully he will be able to lend you a hand with everything, and make sure you don't blow yourself up hehehehe. I will definately share anything I discover.
        90 Festiva with Brand new B3, 5spd
        92 B6 Festiva, 5spd
        94 Mustang DSS 331, Vortec S-Trim, 5 spd
        94 Mustang GT, stock, automatic

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        • #5
          I'm just looking for 5 or 6 psi for 1) fun and 2) to better haul my fat ass around. OK, I'm not really fat, but when I'm driving a car as small and as light as a Festiva, I just feel fat. I felt like a total porker at the go-kart track last week, let me tell ya.

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          • #6
            plumbing an oil feed,return, intake,intercooler plumbing, etc are the easy parts, mounting the turbo is the problem with a B6, either
            A. your a damm good welder/fab guy with the Right equipment.
            B. You have enough money to spend to have a header made. (probably cost more then finding a b6t.)

            Thats my problem anyway, for a street car I personally would prefer a cast iron manifold over a tubular header, they just hold up better, But no one that know of ever made one for a b6.

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            • #7
              A. Yes. A little short on gear, but I've learned to improvise. Here's a pic of the first thing I ever fabbed from scratch. It's one of the short ram intakes I sold when I ran MonkeyRacing as a little web based biz.



              B. Money? What's that? I drive a Festiva, c'mon! I've got raw materials, and a friend at a VW tuner shop has offered to have the header flange made for me when he gets a bunch of stuff water jetted. All I need to supply is an exhaust gasket.

              I think for me the toughest part remains finding bargain basement ways to adjust the fuel/air metering, preferably using junkyard parts.

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              • #8
                Monkey...when do you think that your friend might make the header flange? If he could make 2 I could send you some moo laaaa for it:-) I am going to fab up my own headers for the B6 and then install the turbo. It sounds like we have similar goals. I'm not too bad at fabricating, so I figured I would do the headers.
                Just let me know if you could, otherwise I am going to fab one of those up too. I already have a plan of attack hehehehe
                90 Festiva with Brand new B3, 5spd
                92 B6 Festiva, 5spd
                94 Mustang DSS 331, Vortec S-Trim, 5 spd
                94 Mustang GT, stock, automatic

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                • #9
                  proper fueling can be an interesting thing to deal with. Once you go past the point of no return, you're talking billet rails, AN lines, external Aeromotive pumps, etc. Personally, since you aren't planning to go drastic, I would simply get a B6T fuel rail and regulator, as well as the corresponding PCM and VAM. Drop a G3 RX7 or GS-T pump in the tank and you should be golden.
                  1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
                  1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
                  2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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                  • #10
                    If your looking for flanges for a b6-e i have some lying in my garage 3/8 SS gasket matched, water jet cut.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DON SVO
                      proper fueling can be an interesting thing to deal with. Once you go past the point of no return, you're talking billet rails, AN lines, external Aeromotive pumps, etc. Personally, since you aren't planning to go drastic, I would simply get a B6T fuel rail and regulator, as well as the corresponding PCM and VAM. Drop a G3 RX7 or GS-T pump in the tank and you should be golden.
                      Good call on all counts. I've got a few fuel pumps hanging around, but some of the other stuff is hard to find around here. I will find a way in any case. Just have to figure out some budgeting now.

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