So I know Charlie runs his white car on medium high boost with only water methanol injection. Greg runs no intercooler with his rear turbo setup. But let's face it, all turbo cars will make more power with a cooler intake charge. My calculations show 30 percent denser air if you could chill 300f to around 80f. Every type of knock resistance cooling has its pros and cons. Water methanol injection is probably the best for being able to control knock and turn up boost levels, but does it have limitations? The water methanol mix will not heat soak under prolonged use. Air to air intercoolers are great for high speed road racing because at in town street speeds they can heat soak from being close to the radiator, and stop and go traffic and such. Air water intercoolers are great because they take longer to heat soak but all dependent on your holding tank, best for drag racing, in town driving. Most road racing situations can't maximize results with it. So why not use all 3. In theory, knock is what blows things up, along with rpm, but if you keep the factory red line, and you don't get knock, you can't really explode any solid components. Maybe just a head gasket. Or two. Discuss. Go.
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As the idea I'm about to share is only theoretical.. I may need some help with the order, here goes..
My idea was to build a custom radiator that would allow cooling for the following.. Now let me know if this seems too "incredible"..
Essentially it'll be a 4 to 5" radiator that will allow cooling for:
Has custom 4 layer setup for the following
Water
Transmission oil
Engine oil
Intercooler for future turbo upgrade.
What order (in the layers from front to rear)would be best to cool down all liquids and air to allow for maximum adequate cooling to all systems..?
As I know water is hottest under pressure and oil simply flows and isn't under pressure. I'll be running a manual box with a pump to move the oil to and from the transmission with a custom in and out spouting to be fed into the transmission to allow for output of hotter oil to be run to radiator via an earth magnet/filter setup and return via the same hole (the oil return will push the oil down to the bottom of the transmission to allow it to be reheated, the output closer to the top to remove and cool top warmer/hotter oil.)
So any ideas on hottest to coldest to allow a proper setup?Last edited by fuddrucker; 09-17-2014, 09:27 AM.
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I don't know if I like the idea of engine oil cooling, it would take some serious performance and long spouts of boost to need an oil cooler. The main issue is winter driving, and a thermostat for the oil, or it could ruin your engine. Imagine 50f oil under full load. Ouch
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I think each fluid needing cooled would operate best with its own cooler. Although some radiators do come with a built in transmission cooler, which is more or less a inlet and outlet on the bottom of the radiator that has a pipe running between them. So that the tranny fluid gets exposed to the cooled radiator fluid, even if only for a short length of time. It was a Honda radiator for an automaticLast edited by bhearts; 09-17-2014, 09:24 AM.
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since i took my battery out of my engine bay, and put it in my trunk, i have huge space for air/water intercooling. i was contemplating putting two of these in series
https://www.frozenboost.com/air_wate...7a2956e181a860 and possibly running a beer cooler in the loop for ice water. having an air to air intercooler first would dramatically decrease the load on the ice water loop. there is no reason that ambient boost temps or lower couldnt be a possibility. that would dramatically increase performance on pump gas alone.
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