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  • Anyone interested in possibly doubling the range on these cars?

    Just looking over at genesisautoparts.com

    Found that the ford crown Victoria's tank is almost a spot on match for our tank on paper.
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  • #2
    that would be fuelish. the width difference is a dealbreaker not to mention the absence of hose nipples in the correct place.

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    • #3
      Yeah, won't work but good on ya for thinking outside the box. Another way: carry a 5-gallon gas can to extend your range. Driving a manual Festy @ 55 MPH should get you to over 55 mpg; so an extra 5 gallons would get you another 250+ miles down the road. Might be useful if driving in remote locations where a gas station might not be all that available; or if caught in a snowstorm and need the car running to keep the heater on.

      Even a 2-gallon can would be useful enough, probably. I would carry two 2-gallon cans, for more versatility in where I can stow them in the car.
      Last edited by TominMO; 12-12-2014, 10:24 AM.
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      • #4
        What about modifying the shape of the tank to suit the same shape as the festiva tank? As in even out the seam so the tank can bolt to the bottom of the car?

        Leave it with me.

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        • #5
          The shape would need to be corrected so the seam can bolt to the car.

          the depth is 1 and 1/4 deeper all around and the length of the tank (what runs across the back of the car) might need to be adjusted for a bias toward the left away from the exhaust..

          The holes for filler, return and breathers could be adjusted since the tank would be cut and rewelded anyway and be remade to resemble more the festiva tank rather than using the vic crowns setup.

          While we're at it, if the fuel sender isn't as good as the festiva, transplant the festiva sender opening to the new tank, but from what I'm reading, they have to feed a 4.8l engine so im guessing it's probably better to use the crown sender instead.

          This ebay auction has a few different angled shots of the same tank..



          You could compare the two side by side, get references from the Festiva to make the crown tank more symetrical, like the festiva, relocate the holes to the side and skinny the tank to the same width as the festivas.
          Last edited by jhntu; 12-22-2014, 06:08 PM.

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          • #6
            With all the modification work needed for that Crown Vic tank, it would be simpler to just build a custom fuel cell. Cut out the spare tire well and use that space to enlarge the tank.

            But what's the point? Even driving cross-country, gas is always available at regular intervals, with rare exceptions. And for those, you just carry a two-gallon gas can or two to get you where you can fill up. Two gallons at 55 MPH will get you over 100 miles in a 5-speed EFI Festy.
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            • #7
              Advanced, what you think of modding the tank to suit our little beasts. I'll grab some better photos.

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              • #8
                If you really wanted to mod a tank, why not just mod the stock one?

                Cut a strip of metal and cut the tank in half. Then weld it in and back together.
                Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

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                • #9
                  True that too.

                  Here is some pics of the tank..













                  Just for reference..

                  And well the strip piece on the festiva tank may be a simpler alternative too.

                  I essentially want to adjust the depth and length to be honest, it does look like a whole lot of work.. But not unachievable, just slightly time consuming..
                  Last edited by jhntu; 05-23-2015, 10:56 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Festiva tank.











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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sketchman View Post
                      If you really wanted to mod a tank, why not just mod the stock one?

                      Cut a strip of metal and cut the tank in half. Then weld it in and back together.
                      That's using your noodle.. [emoji2]

                      Good idea..

                      What do you recommend for depth? Match the depth of the vic crown tank by adding to the top or the bottom of the tank?

                      I'll take a stab and say bottom unless we have a small amount of room underneath the car unless the tank is completely flush with the floor of the car when bolted in.

                      Now regarding the length (the face of the tank across the bottom of the car)..

                      Is there enough room on the fuel receiving side to squeeze a couple of inches or is it as tight up in there as we're allowed?

                      Anyone got a naked shot of the area where the fueltank would sit?

                      Also, is anyone aware of how much playroom is left comparing where the tank is situated compared to the underneath of the car?
                      Last edited by jhntu; 05-23-2015, 11:10 AM.

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                      • #12
                        If you increase the depth of the tank you will have to increase the depth of the pump. And then what about the float?
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                        • #13
                          Extend the float arm to suit..

                          It'll only be an inch or so.. Guess it'll be decided come fitment.
                          Last edited by jhntu; 05-23-2015, 11:20 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Might need to rock guard a little, I have demolished a few tanks.
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                            • #15
                              Ok. You don't happen to have answers for the questions up there do you, regarding the picture of the space where the tank sits and how much space is left on the fuel receiving side of the car?
                              Last edited by jhntu; 05-23-2015, 11:53 AM.

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