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    I’m looking to add power to my b3 but I was wondering how much power the 5 speed transmission can handle before blowing out. I’m looking to put a b6 soho head on it and port the head, add some long tube headers and upgrade intake and injectors. Looking to pull 120hp but will the tranny hold up. I know I need a better clutch for it. I really don’t want to do a transmission swap I like the stock gearing

  • #2
    Depends on how you drive it. Beat on it, it’s probably gonna break. I think they are good for around 100 or so horsepower. I don’t recall the torque rating. A couple of folks on here have raced them and not had them break until they were doing high rpm launches at around 150 hp.
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    • #3
      1.6 heads do not work on b3. just port the b3 head.

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      • #4
        I have a b6t mated to the stock transmission and have had an extremely difficult time finding a clutch that will hold enough to cause damage.

        Right now I have a custom clutch by kentucky clutch with ceramic faces and increased clamping force and that still slips.
        Now, you may be able to break it if you try doing a burnout or something...
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        • #5
          Charlie is running his current b6t powered car thru a 4 speed E series. Last I knew he was pushing 160hp and planning on bumping that up. His current engine/turbo setup is capable of 250hp or more. Not sure what he is running for a clutch.
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          • #6
            And yeah, it sounds like you are gonna make yourself have a bad day trying that head swap. Open up your b3, or do the full b6 swap. Either way your hp prediction is a little off.
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            • #7
              I think Charlie is testing a b6t+E on track currently.. iirc: it's wild but still holding.

              No burnouts, don't dump the clutch, and try to avoid acceleration over bumps/gaps that allow the wheel to spin-grab.

              edit>> bhaz already said.. sitting here doing other stuff after typing that out. toot-doodles-ciao
              Last edited by walth; 06-17-2018, 10:08 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 1988festivuh View Post
                I’m looking to add power to my b3 but I was wondering how much power the 5 speed transmission can handle before blowing out. I’m looking to put a b6 sohc head on it and port the head, add some long tube headers and upgrade intake and injectors. Looking to pull 120hp but will the tranny hold up. I know I need a better clutch for it. I really don’t want to do a transmission swap I like the stock gearing
                I have a gen2 SOHC B6 with Matt Dickmeyer-modded head, and his headers. It dynoed at about 97 wheel HP, so maybe 107 - 110 crank HP. The tranny can take it, no problems.

                Besides porting and flow-matching the stock injectors, he also added larger valves and more camshaft lift and duration. I don't think that porting and a header alone will do much; also, IMO larger injectors would be pointless without larger valves and more cam.

                Previously this motor (with unmodded head) had a rear turbo, and made somewhat more power than what I have now, probably about 120 at the crank. It would slip the stock clutch (which was not a new one). But as long as I just accelerated while already underway, and didn't launch it from a stoplight, no tranny problems.
                Last edited by TominMO; 06-17-2018, 02:22 PM.
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                • #9
                  I found a 89 tracer 1.6 sohc. What do I need to pull from it for a successful engine swap. And which clutch and flywheel should I use? The 1.6 or the 1.3 do I need the ecu?

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                  • #10
                    Clutch/flywheel should be the one used with the trans you are using. I.E, e-series trans, e-series clutch/flywheel.

                    You can use the B3 ECU/wiring, if I remember correctly on either the B6 or B3,
                    Last edited by Team Lightning; 06-19-2018, 12:46 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Grab the b6 vaf/ecu if you can.

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                      • #12
                        I think Matt got like 90chp out of a b3. Is that right?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sid_RallyX_82 View Post
                          I think Matt got like 90chp out of a b3. Is that right?
                          IIRC mine dynoed at about 87WHP.
                          90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                          09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sid_RallyX_82 View Post
                            I think Matt got like 90chp out of a b3. Is that right?
                            I think he eventually ended up getting more than that after the turbo but there is only like 1 video of the car running that I can find.
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