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  • #61
    i agree . next tome u.sand a car,start with 220 finish with 400. spray all bondoed areas with primer,then sand with 400 . follow procedures,watch details. spray lite coats.

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    • #62
      Pictures

      Here:

      Roof - not done:




      The back not done:



      This is my location of painting - Im ganna drop cloth/seal the area off:




      Otherside:




      Does anybody have recommendations for this?



      Anyway I need to finish 60 to get the old paint off. then it is off to 220 and 320. Then I will choose a colour - lighter because of the body imperfections.
      I might do the BC/CC or the rustoleum enamel.
      "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

      -Garrison Keillor

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      • #63
        Originally posted by windy1 View Post
        i disagree. u dont need sealer,or primer,unless u want to.its a free country,and its your money.
        Wrong! Highly recommend sealer!! Painting straight over primer and paint can lead to a blotchy uneven colored paintjob, darker and lighter in some spots due to what is underneath the color you spray. The sealer acts as a blank canvas figurately speaking so everything is even color when you spray it. Also painting straight over primer is just a bad idea period IMO, the paint can have drawback and get absorbed into the primer or it can lift later on. But what do I know I do this everyday for a job, so you must be a expert on the subject windy1...

        This is if you want a good lasting paintjob, sure you can go do whatever, but what the hell is the point if you waste that much money time and effort on something that won't last for anything or look near as good.
        -93' L BP swap/e-series, coilovers, RIO front swap, redrilled festy drums, Miata 14" 7 spokes.
        -88' Mazda 323 SE, work in progress..
        -85' Nissan Sentra 5 spd.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Festiva_Fred View Post
          Wrong! Highly recommend sealer!! Painting straight over primer and paint can lead to a blotchy uneven colored paintjob, darker and lighter in some spots due to what is underneath the color you spray. The sealer acts as a blank canvas figurately speaking so everything is even color when you spray it. Also painting straight over primer is just a bad idea period IMO, the paint can have drawback and get absorbed into the primer or it can lift later on. But what do I know I do this everyday for a job, so you must be a expert on the subject windy1...

          This is if you want a good lasting paintjob, sure you can go do whatever, but what the hell is the point if you waste that much money time and effort on something that won't last for anything or look near as good.
          I see this is interesting - as you may know on your signature you can see something pealing on the hood, I think the clear coat? - what would cause such a thing?
          "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

          -Garrison Keillor

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          • #65
            Originally posted by KJ4YXY View Post
            I see this is interesting - as you may know on your signature you can see something pealing on the hood, I think the clear coat? - what would cause such a thing?
            Called delaminated clearcoated. Caused from old age, the clear breaks down over time. It's a 23 year old car, it happens.. Haven't got around to doing the paintwork on it yet. Plans are to do it this winter.

            If you have any doubts about anything I've said, take a read through this thread for a example of what I have done/do.. http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=35489
            -93' L BP swap/e-series, coilovers, RIO front swap, redrilled festy drums, Miata 14" 7 spokes.
            -88' Mazda 323 SE, work in progress..
            -85' Nissan Sentra 5 spd.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Festiva_Fred View Post
              Called delaminated clearcoated. Caused from old age, the clear breaks down over time. It's a 23 year old car, it happens.. Haven't got around to doing the paintwork on it yet. Plans are to do it this winter.

              If you have any doubts about anything I've said, take a read through this thread for a example of what I have done/do.. http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=35489
              After scanning through that thread I have given up hopes on doing this, knowing it will look terrible. Me thinking I could do some half baked job thinking I could go out in public...
              "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

              -Garrison Keillor

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              • #67
                Originally posted by KJ4YXY View Post
                After scanning through that thread I have given up hopes on doing this, knowing it will look terrible. Me thinking I could do some half baked job thinking I could go out in public...
                No need to give up, just trying to give pointers on the right procedure not trying to shoot down what you're doing, just guide you in the right direction...
                -93' L BP swap/e-series, coilovers, RIO front swap, redrilled festy drums, Miata 14" 7 spokes.
                -88' Mazda 323 SE, work in progress..
                -85' Nissan Sentra 5 spd.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Festiva_Fred View Post
                  No need to give up, just trying to give pointers on the right procedure not trying to shoot down what you're doing, just guide you in the right direction...
                  My original intent was to cover everything and paint. not to bother with taking half the car apart. I honestly don't know how to do that. - I replaced the drivers door and lost most of the screws.
                  I thought it would be a simple sand, primer, sand, seal, sand, base, sand, clear. with a cheap wagner sprayer.
                  "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

                  -Garrison Keillor

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                  • #69
                    Do NOT use those ^^^ monstrosities on your body. They are for grinding down to bare metal to apply filler and to remove heavy rust. You should go over your body with 150 grit SP in a vibrating sander to remove some of the damage from the 60 grit. Then prime entire car with rustoleum clean metal primer to fill remaining scratches. After a day or so sand with 400 grit. It will be as smooth as a baby's butt and ready for the color coat.

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                    • #70
                      hurry up and do what GEORGE EB said and paint it. stop jawing,its time to paint

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                      • #71
                        Windy1 - do you have any experience/credibility with painting a car? Festiva_Fred does and has shown pics of his work and I would personally listen to his advice over most of the people on here when it comes to painting/prepping a car for paint

                        That's my .02

                        1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
                        1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
                        2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

                        1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

                        If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by windy1 View Post
                          hurry up and do what GEORGE EB said and paint it. stop jawing,its time to paint
                          well the problem is that I am only able to get to the car on Sunday.
                          "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

                          -Garrison Keillor

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Damkid View Post
                            Windy1 - do you have any experience/credibility with painting a car? Festiva_Fred does and has shown pics of his work and I would personally listen to his advice over most of the people on here when it comes to painting/prepping a car for paint

                            That's my .02
                            MMHHHMM - does every body here just hate Windy1?
                            "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

                            -Garrison Keillor

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                            • #74
                              Does it get dark when the sun goes down..?
                              -93' L BP swap/e-series, coilovers, RIO front swap, redrilled festy drums, Miata 14" 7 spokes.
                              -88' Mazda 323 SE, work in progress..
                              -85' Nissan Sentra 5 spd.

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                              • #75
                                interior

                                KJ4yxy, i just noticed your front seats.....i'd pay top dollar for them if they're TAN......that's if you want to sell them.

                                We need to get you OVERHAULED bud!
                                92 GL, 98k
                                77 Chevy shortbed

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