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    Hey all, long story short Im having to get some adapter spacers because the junkyard wouldnt let me test fit the wheels and marked them incorrectly apparently.
    So, of course, im going to need longer lug studs. Does anyone know any other vehicles I can grab them off of/where to get them that fit the right threads and sizing required?
    The adapter spacers will be 1.5in thick, so the OEM studs wont work unfortunately.
    I appreciate any help :3

  • #2
    G'day. A search of the Internet on "assorted lug bolts" brings up a number of suppliers. Be careful, as they say, what you ask for. When the bolts are permanently attached to the wheel and only the threaded end sticks out they are called "studs" and you only have to take off and put on "lug nuts". On our Festivas the wheels have threaded holes and we have to take off and put on "lug bolts". Hope that helps. Sorry I don't know the length, guage or thread size of our bolts but if nobody replies you can take one to a hardware store and match up to the ones they have. They are, of course, metric.
    Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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    • #3
      Convert to extended threaded studs. Easier and better. If you make sure you used red loctite
      Last edited by chiquito1228; 03-19-2023, 12:24 PM.

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      • #4
        What are the specs of the wheels that you're trying to fit? They'll have to be very skinny and very high positive offset to fit with a 1.5" spacer.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by theastronaut View Post
          What are the specs of the wheels that you're trying to fit? They'll have to be very skinny and very high positive offset to fit with a 1.5" spacer.
          theyre 185/70/14s
          im thinking i can get the autozone special coil-raisers, and the wheel spacer combo should allow them to fit. worst case, I ghetto roll the fenders, or something else idk.
          Or sell the set i got, and/or try to trade them out for something smaller. Regardless, I do have a set of honda accord wheels on standby depending on how these fit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Riceplant View Post

            theyre 185/70/14s
            im thinking i can get the autozone special coil-raisers, and the wheel spacer combo should allow them to fit. worst case, I ghetto roll the fenders, or something else idk.
            Or sell the set i got, and/or try to trade them out for something smaller. Regardless, I do have a set of honda accord wheels on standby depending on how these fit.

            Those are wayyyy too big, over 3" taller than the original tires. You need a set of 165/55-14 but they're hard to find right now, if the offset is even high enough to work with spacers. Even if you can make modifications to get them to fit, the added height and weight will kill your mpg and acceleration.

            Festivas are getting to be really hard to find in decent condition and their value keeps going up (I just paid $5,700 for a really nice '88 Festiva L) so it's best to not cut or roll the fenders to get tires to fit, it really kills the resale value and makes it hard for the next guy to fix.
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            • #7
              Here is the tire and wheel guide for reference, copy/pasted from the Facebook group.


              TIRE AND WHEEL GUIDE

              I'm turning my comment into a quick post for reference when you want to know what wheel or tire specs is appropriate for a festiva.

              If anyone sees anything missing or incorrect let me know.

              Diameter: 13" to 15"

              The following assumes you are using stock brakes, or Aspire rears for 4x100, and using only suggested tire sizes.

              Stock suspension;
              4x114.3: 6" wide or less, +25 to +38mm offset
              4x100: 6" wide or less , +35 to +45 in the rear (with a 10mm spacer on the front to square up)

              Coilovers with -3.5° Camber:
              4x114.3: 7" wide , +25 (or higher, with spacers to get back down to +25)
              6" wide or less, +18 (same as above)
              4x100 7" wide , +35, 10mm spacer in the front
              6" wide or less , +28, 10mm spacer in the front

              Centerbore:
              Festiva: 59.1
              Aspire: 54.1

              12" Tires:
              145/80R12 (Stock size)
              165/70R12 (stock size)
              155/80R12 is taller, but usually cheaper and more common if you are in a pinch.

              13" Tires:
              155/65R13
              165/60R13
              165/65R13
              185/60R13 (stickies for Coilovers)

              14" Tire:
              165/55R14

              15" tire:
              165/50R15

              Going 175+ wide for a daily/street festiva is not a great idea. Wider tires hydroplane much quicker with how light these cars are.​
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              • #8
                Originally posted by theastronaut View Post


                Those are wayyyy too big, over 3" taller than the original tires. You need a set of 165/55-14 but they're hard to find right now, if the offset is even high enough to work with spacers. Even if you can make modifications to get them to fit, the added height and weight will kill your mpg and acceleration.

                Festivas are getting to be really hard to find in decent condition and their value keeps going up (I just paid $5,700 for a really nice '88 Festiva L) so it's best to not cut or roll the fenders to get tires to fit, it really kills the resale value and makes it hard for the next guy to fix.
                unfortunately they're gonna have to fit. The junkyard has no refund policy for some reason. And I doubt I can resell a set of tires in time for the spacers to get here (1.5-2 weeks but they're basic normal rims. Good tires but people are about rims)


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                • #9
                  Mazdatrix sells threaded 2 inch ($2) and 2&3/8 inch ($4) wheel studs.
                  I use these on my car, an ice racer. They stand up very well, and stay threaded in, I have never had any work loose (red loctite added)



                  You can make press in studs work, but it is irreversible, as they ruin the threads in the wheel hub or brake drum. Plus you have to take the hubs apart on the front end, which is a lot of work, and the hubs off on the back. And you probably need press to get them in, and probably a drill press to open the hole to the right size for the press in stud.

                  You can probably get really long bolts from any race shop. But I do not expect you can get long enough stock studs or bolts from a car in a junkyard.
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