Sway Bar-Front AND Rear

[fastivaca]

What tires are you running Scott? I had a look at mine and with the 185-60-13's the nut is going to be very close to the tire. I am switching to 175-60's in the very near future though.

Thanks again for a great idea!

[leapin]

im running a 165/65R13

[hofficergrover]

this aint really on this topic but what are LCAs?

[GenevaDirt]

this aint really on this topic but what are LCAs?

lower control arms / ball joints

[JPT]

People who do the Capri brake swap are going to LOVE this!

[hofficergrover]

ok thanks haha

[sam.1956]

Looks like you used Ny-Lok nuts on the bar? A good choice I think b/c of their ability to resist working loose from vibration. I'm gonna have to give this a try!

[sasquatch]

i thought we where keeping this a secret lol jk.... i think im gonna do this to my aspire beam and see if its even better or just to stiff lol...

[leapin]

^^lol. did you want me to pick you up a bar?

[Arnie]

I would be concerned about boxing the rear trailing arm subframe. I'm thinking that the open 'taco' shape determines the appropriate amount of twist that the torsion beam sees. If its completely boxed in the effective spring rate might increase tremendously. to the point that you have very little rear suspension movement. i dunno, something to think about.

[leapin]

I would be concerned about boxing the rear trailing arm subframe. I'm thinking that the open 'taco' shape determines the appropriate amount of twist that the torsion beam sees. If its completely boxed in the effective spring rate might increase tremendously. to the point that you have very little rear suspension movement. i dunno, something to think about.

I was thinking about that too. There is no independant susp. so it needs to move some what to allow the wheel to move if only one hits a bump. If i hit a good bump that pushes one wheel up with the new bar in i notice the rear end will step out just a little bit. I guess now the limited movement means when one wheel goes up the other now follows. Its not dangerous right now but if a guy was to box in the taco beam i think it would be too stiff.

[blkfordsedan]

I was thinking about that too. There is no independant susp. so it needs to move some what to allow the wheel to move if only one hits a bump. If i hit a good bump that pushes one wheel up with the new bar in i notice the rear end will step out just a little bit. I guess now the limited movement means when one wheel goes up the other now follows. Its not dangerous right now but if a guy was to box in the taco beam i think it would be too stiff.

That tells the story...you want it to act like a solid axle and transfer the movement to both wheels for handling reasons, but the stiffer it is the rougher it will ride and the more it will tend to act just as you stated. I have noticed a lot of FWD autocross cars will lift the inside rear wheel off the ground when cornering hard. I assume the advantage of an actual spring steel sway bar is the progressive rate that stiffens when the force increases. I'm sure the stiffer Aspire front bar you installed also has an effect on this and the "step-out" may be worse with the stock Festiva front bar. Maybe some auto-x'ers on here that really know this stuff will help out.

I found this link a while back that has some good info.

http://www.stealthtdi.com/SwayBars.html

[hofficergrover]

on the aspire sway bar front id like to see how it looks going over the cross member please.
i am going to be doing a aspire swap and want to see what it looks like. thanks

[leapin]

^^ give me and hour and ill get pics up

[hofficergrover]

ok thanks man