My KLZE Festiva Build Thread

[Damkid]

Thanks for the support guys, in a few days i will be taking my festiva off the road for the winter and i plan on pulling the motor/trans for the purpose of test fitting the probe tranny so maybe in a week or two i will have the first ever probe tranny installed in a festiva!!

The last thing i'm concerned with is the depth the axles go into the tranny to reach the spider gears, i don't think the tranny cases would be that different but it also wasn't intended for 323 axles either

What i am expecting to do is put new 323 axle seals in the probe tranny just because of the different axle diameter, but thats very minor

[hofficergrover]

this thing is going to be sweet to see done!

[GUS]

I am drooling all over this thread......

[Damkid]

I re-assembled the 323 tranny today, minus the diff, just to get practice for the probe tranny, to make sure i don't mess anything up and what a PITA!! it took me several tries to get everything feeling normal again but at least i have a better understanding of the re-assembly process

Monday i'll have the phantom grip installed inside the differential, i just don't have a vice to compress the spring to install the upgrade springs or i would have done it already

[Damkid]

:lol: if you bought an LSD and brought me your tranny i'd install it for you

BTW this LSD only cost me $50 but it is used and the last guy to use it blew his differential so it has some scars on it but they're only cosmetic

[Maxtiva]

When do you want my tranny so you can put this phantom grip LSD in ???
How much by the way ???

[Damkid]

Phantom grip LSD with upgraded springs ready for install

[Damkid]

I set the hybrid diff. into the empty probe case and put the other half of the case in place to check how the bearings fit, and everything seems to be fitting the way it should be

so i'm getting anxious to re-assemble the tranny and start pulling the motor/trans out of my festiva to see how the probe tranny fits in the engine bay the good part is i think i can re-use my current tranny mounts on the probe tranny, at least the rear mount will work for sure

[Damkid]

I remember reading that thread, i beleive the intermediate shafts are different lengths as well, i remember reading someone saying how escort axles are actually shorter meaning the intermediate shaft is longer in an escort

I'm just going by memory and i don't remember facts on axle differences

[shorestiva]

festiva and aspire axles have an inboard spline count of 22 with an outboard spline count of 24. Lengths, for the festiva, are 23 7/8" and 34 5/8" left and right, respectively. Lengths, for the aspire, are 24 1/8" and 34 13/16" left and right, respectively.

Capri XR2 and 323GT have an inboard spline count of 26 with an outboard spline count 24. Lengths are 23 1/4" and 21 3/16" (not including intermediate shaft), left and right respectively.

Escort GT and 92-94 protege have inboard spline count of 26 but an outboard spline count of 26. Lengths are 23 15/16" and 24 3/8" (not including intermediate shaft), left and right respectively.

98+ kia sephia has an inboard spline count of 28 with an outboard spline count of 26. Lengths are 24 1/4" and 24 1/2" (not including intermediate shaft), left and right respectively.

NA Capri and 90-94 323 have an inboard spline count of 24 with an outboard spline of 26. Lengths are 24 1/2" and 35 9/16", left and right respectively.

86-89 323 has inboard spline count of 24 and an outboard spline count of 24. Lengths are 24" and 35", left and right respectively.

All axles were for cars with manual transmisions

I found this in another thread. It looks like there is a big difference in length between bf and bg axles unless there is a difference in intermediate shaft length.

[shorestiva]

iirc a guy on m323p tried to swap bg hubs onto a bf. He tried to use the bg axles but they were to long I think. I can't remember if he said how much of a difference there was. Of course its down again so I can't check.

[Damkid]

Itd be an upgrade from the aspire stuff. And the escort stuff should just bolt on. Im just guessing that there might be a way to do this without tearing into the trans.

Ok i see what your sayin now, i don't know how much of a difference there is in axle length between the BF chassis and the BG chassis

I had a thought of using aspire LCA's (since they're longer) to maybe give enough room for the BG axles but i never looked into that too deep

[Damkid]

Oh man, this is such ground breaking headway! I'd love to see you do this to a different car, but it's ultimately up to you. Maybe you should snag the parts off of your aspire and put them on a festiva and have two groundbreaking festys instead of a festy and an aspire.

Its all about the space and money i have to work with, i am for sure going to at least install the tranny in my red festiva once its off the road, to garentee it will work in a festiva (or any BF car)

the other thing i need to consider is i only have room for 3 cars, right now it's my festiva, aspire, and 300zx, so the only car i have thats good for winter is the aspire, if my girlfriend gets back to work and needs a car in the winter then one of my summer cars will have to get put on the road, which i do not want to do, so i do plan on selling my 300zx (hopefully by spring) so we can have 2 year round cars and 1 project car

[shorestiva]

Itd be an upgrade from the aspire stuff. And the escort stuff should just bolt on. Im just guessing that there might be a way to do this without tearing into the trans.

[pr0nst4r]

Oh man, this is such ground breaking headway! I'd love to see you do this to a different car, but it's ultimately up to you. Maybe you should snag the parts off of your aspire and put them on a festiva and have two groundbreaking festys instead of a festy and an aspire.