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  • Mission "possible"

    Hello members of the world of Ford Festiva's, i have joined this forum because, as my username, i have started a engine conversion that is "Only1" in the world.

    I have chosen an engine that no one has ever done before. Unlike a Mazda BPT, B6, which has been done to death, and BORING, i have chosen an engine combo that no one has tried yet and at the end, the car will be a ripper. Its a crazy engine to attempt fitting, but i have done it.

    At this moment in time, the engine/ECU/Turbo will be 100% standard. Only after i have loads of fun and experimenting, i can go to stage 2 and spend probably $4000 and have a 800HP 500kg rocket.


    I dont want to show any pics yet, but ill let you all guess for now what engine i used. I will provide pics soon.

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    How do you know your'e the "Only1"?!?
    "The White Turd" 1993 Festiva 144k miles. (Winner of FOTM November 2016)
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    "The Rusty Banana" 1990 Yellow 5 Speed Mud Festiva (Lifted with 27" BKT Tractor Tires)(Winner of "Best Beater Award" - Madness 12 - 2018)

    "Papa Smurf" 1992 Blue 5 Speed Shell
    "Cracker?" (name pending) 1992 White Auto Shell (Future BP Swap)
    "Green Car..." Scrap Car that Runs?!?
    "Red Car..." Complete Scrap Car

    "El Flama Blanca" 1993 Festiva 104k miles. (Lil Brothers Car)
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzM...ew?usp=sharing

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    • #3
      The engine combo i chose does not exist in Google or youtube search.

      I have a good feeling no one has ever tried the type of engine im using. Its so random, opposite, its like water and oil, it just doesnt mix. Thats the fun part of doing an engine conversion. Its a unique build.

      Only clues i will say is that its a piston engine, and factory turbo. Engine/Gearbox fully mounted. All im doing now is the cosmetic part of it, all the fiddly bits and pieces.


      Hell, its so crazy, i wont even say what model festiva im using. All ill say at this point is that im putting a cucumber engine in a pea, as a means of describing the engine type put in such a small car etc. I have done the possible in Mission "Impossible"
      Last edited by Only1; 06-15-2017, 07:19 AM.

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      • #4
        BPT and B6T's are boring? I think you would get a good argument on here to the contrary. Maybe you will understand why the BPT / B6T swap is so darned popular if you hang out on here long enough. Good luck on hooking up with 800 HP. In your first post you said you have fitted the engine, in your second post you are doing the cosmetic part of it, all the fiddly (what the heck is fiddly?) bits and pieces. Until we see some pictures it sounds like a silly dream...or nightmare may be more appropriate. Maybe it's a Cummins 5.9 / 6.7 (are the new ones 6.7?) They get some pretty high hp numbers if you don't mind an engine trans combo that's heavier then the rest of the car. Post pictures or we are skeptical.
        '88 Festiva LX 5 speed, A/C, Carb, restored $$$ body paint, badly wrecked @ 200k.
        '93 Festiva L, 5 speed, Aqua, bought from the original owner,.Zero rust but very nasty otherwise. Awaits the B6T.
        '91 Festiva L, 5 speed, bought to drive while putting the B6T in the '93. now B6ME powered.

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        • #5
          Dear Rick, i have owned X4 mazda BPT GTX's. I know the engines, and they are the most responsive turbo cars i have ever owned. I can imagine how quick a festiva would be with such engine in it etc.

          In this project build, the basis to calling the BPT engine "boring" is soley based on that they have been "Done to death" in a ford festiva. Sure, they would be very zippy and fast, but i dont want to be another statistic, another "BPT conversion build" in this forum.


          The ford festiva model i have will not be disclosed till i advance more in the conversion, as well as telling what engine is being used. Just have a fun guess. I think the engine i have makes 170kws standard. Put that in a 450-500kg car and i got a seriously fast car to begin with.

          Yep, engine/gearbox fully fitted.
          Cosmetic/fiddly bits = Front stabiliser bar, gearstick mechanism and cables, clutch cable, radiator and intercooler, fuel system is what i call "fiddly bits". These are walk in the park tasks. 50% complete already.

          Bare with me.

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          • #6
            Welcome to the community!

            Finally, someone is doing a Cosworth DFY FWD swap. I gathered most of the parts, but the old Zytec controller was fried and I'm too lazy to wire up a new system.
            Last edited by Advancedynamix; 06-15-2017, 08:33 AM.
            Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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            • #7
              I have no clue what you have done but there are several other festivas out there that have not really been listed online. I would love to see what you have done to this thing. Ps the 1 and only way you could even think about hooking 800hp in a festiva would be to swap in something like a ford 9" or 8.8 chopped down and running some major slicks and all set for the drag strip. Which has been done as well. Carlos has 776hp in a festy and cant get her to stick and hes has a custom tube chasis.


              I cant wait to see pictures of your build bud! Good luck and i hope shes fun.
              1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
              1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
              1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
              19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
              1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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              • #8
                Well after youve told us what youve done youll have to change your name to first1 once everyone copies you

                Thanks for joining the group and were interested in seeing what your doing.

                If it was a diesel you would be mentioning torque figures. Is it the drivetrain or mostly just the engine that a crazy idea? Im going to guess that you know 800hp in a 2wd festiva isnt going to hook up so ill hazard a guess that its an awd setup and engine from a subaru?
                Im fairly certain yould be doing awd but not sure what engine, i dont think you can get 800hp out of an audi 1.8 for $4k though

                With the b6t and bpt a lot of people have swapped those motors in sure, but i think we still have a ways to go as far as development and making those setups work better before they ever become boring.
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                Last edited by ryanprins13; 06-15-2017, 10:05 AM.

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                • #9
                  My guess would be a 318 from a Valiant Charger
                  "The White Turd" 1993 Festiva 144k miles. (Winner of FOTM November 2016)
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                  "The Rusty Banana" 1990 Yellow 5 Speed Mud Festiva (Lifted with 27" BKT Tractor Tires)(Winner of "Best Beater Award" - Madness 12 - 2018)

                  "Papa Smurf" 1992 Blue 5 Speed Shell
                  "Cracker?" (name pending) 1992 White Auto Shell (Future BP Swap)
                  "Green Car..." Scrap Car that Runs?!?
                  "Red Car..." Complete Scrap Car

                  "El Flama Blanca" 1993 Festiva 104k miles. (Lil Brothers Car)
                  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzM...ew?usp=sharing

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                  • #10
                    I get it "If everybody else is doing it I'm doing something else".
                    Describes me sometimes.
                    Will be interesting to see the finished project!
                    No car too fast !

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                    • #11
                      I was going to guess Cummins 6BT also, because of the cucumber in a pea comment you made. Also, the 6bt, depending on year has about 170kw and is not too difficult to get high hp numbers out of.
                      Rick
                      1993 Ford Festiva
                      1986 AMC Eagle Wagon 4.2L/4.0L head, AW4,NP242, Chrysler 8.25" rear. SOLD
                      1981 AMC Eagle Wagon-As Seen on TV Lost In Transmission
                      2000 Ford E350

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                      • #12
                        6bt would require extensive bodywork but i skimmed over the cucumber in pea comment, i assumed it was fitting inside the car. You would have to have much bigger tires to handle the torque from that....

                        But you gotta start saying yes/no to peoples guesses to keep it going! How about some more hints too? Your location says sydney. Is this australia? Where do you live? Much different engines that are commonly available on different continents. You also mentioned power in kilowatts which almost no american does.

                        What are you trying to build? Drag car, track car, rat rod, off road machine? That would help with the guesses too.

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                        • #13
                          AND.....it's better to drive a slow car fast rather then a fast car slow. I heard about a Car and driver video where a 2.0 Miata outran a 700 hp Hellcat by 10 or 11 seconds per clap. But I can relate to the trying to be different thing. I like the idea of a rear engine aluminum 215 cubic inch Buick V-8, also used in Rovers, Triumphs, etc. The Brits called it a 3.5. It wouldn't be the fastest available set up but it would be off the charts in the KooL factor. Plus it would not weigh much if any more then a B6T and it would run nicely with a carb so you wouldn't have to mess with computers, electric fuel pumps and all the associated wiring. Then the fact that 3.5 liters will generally out pull small engines in real world street conditions. Finally V-8s can sound better (just my opinion of course) than any other motor, maybe except for a V-12 which I have heard at the vintage races at Road America. I posted my aluminum V8 thoughts on the Forum and I got the impression that it was not well received in the Festiva community. If I came off as arrogant or condescending I do apologize.
                          '88 Festiva LX 5 speed, A/C, Carb, restored $$$ body paint, badly wrecked @ 200k.
                          '93 Festiva L, 5 speed, Aqua, bought from the original owner,.Zero rust but very nasty otherwise. Awaits the B6T.
                          '91 Festiva L, 5 speed, bought to drive while putting the B6T in the '93. now B6ME powered.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rick the Quick View Post
                            AND.....it's better to drive a slow car fast rather then a fast car slow. I heard about a Car and driver video where a 2.0 Miata outran a 700 hp Hellcat by 10 or 11 seconds per clap. But I can relate to the trying to be different thing. I like the idea of a rear engine aluminum 215 cubic inch Buick V-8, also used in Rovers, Triumphs, etc. The Brits called it a 3.5. It wouldn't be the fastest available set up but it would be off the charts in the KooL factor. Plus it would not weigh much if any more then a B6T and it would run nicely with a carb so you wouldn't have to mess with computers, electric fuel pumps and all the associated wiring. Then the fact that 3.5 liters will generally out pull small engines in real world street conditions. Finally V-8s can sound better (just my opinion of course) than any other motor, maybe except for a V-12 which I have heard at the vintage races at Road America. I posted my aluminum V8 thoughts on the Forum and I got the impression that it was not well received in the Festiva community. If I came off as arrogant or condescending I do apologize.
                            2 different drivers in that video but i think the hellcat would still have been the same or slower than the miata with the same guy driving both.
                            I think the only reason the v8 idea wasnt well recieved is that it wouldnt be the fastest around the track and thats what a lot of people focus on.
                            I think all these weird builds are cool, the diesel yanmarr, the diesel lawn mower engine, the rotary from an rx7 is awesome, the 350chevy in the back with stacks is sweet, same with the guy on fb who has a k20 or whatever in the back and rwd. I like the hybusa and on and on. Festivas are meant to do whatever you want with, i dont know what a 215 v8 would sound like but if you like it then thats what you do. People were just saying it wouldnt be the fastest car around the track, but i spent thousands of dollars as well as hours on my car and its not gonna go fast.... still is what i want though.
                            Same with whatever this guy is doing, im sure it will be cool.
                            Unless its a 300hp B3, i think thats the only uncool thing to do, lol.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ryanprins13 View Post
                              2 different drivers in that video but i think the hellcat would still have been the same or slower than the miata with the same guy driving both.
                              I think the only reason the v8 idea wasnt well recieved is that it wouldnt be the fastest around the track and thats what a lot of people focus on.
                              I think all these weird builds are cool, the diesel yanmarr, the diesel lawn mower engine, the rotary from an rx7 is awesome, the 350chevy in the back with stacks is sweet, same with the guy on fb who has a k20 or whatever in the back and rwd. I like the hybusa and on and on. Festivas are meant to do whatever you want with, i dont know what a 215 v8 would sound like but if you like it then thats what you do. People were just saying it wouldnt be the fastest car around the track, but i spent thousands of dollars as well as hours on my car and its not gonna go fast.... still is what i want though.
                              Same with whatever this guy is doing, im sure it will be cool.
                              Unless its a 300hp B3, i think thats the only uncool thing to do, lol.

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                              Other then being not cost effective a 300 hp B3 would be kool. I would imagine it would also be a high strung beast with no low end, in other words with no real power where you need it on the street. Years ago I had a YZ 125 that was quite fast as long as you kept it running wide open and near the redline. not what you would want for real world street riding. But like a LA series Mopar engine, why build a 273 when you could build a 360? I still like my 215 aluminum idea. Will I ever build it? Realistically probably not. I don't have the time, talent or energy. I still think it would be a potent combination with real potential to give the best of them a run for their money. Do your research and you will find a decorated history with race cars running the 215.
                              '88 Festiva LX 5 speed, A/C, Carb, restored $$$ body paint, badly wrecked @ 200k.
                              '93 Festiva L, 5 speed, Aqua, bought from the original owner,.Zero rust but very nasty otherwise. Awaits the B6T.
                              '91 Festiva L, 5 speed, bought to drive while putting the B6T in the '93. now B6ME powered.

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