Ideas to improve the fastest festiva's lists

[citizen caine]

Make it power adders like you said....covers boosted and nos. Although I agree nos is still NA if on that type of car....we do not call a turbo'ed car anything different when it has nos on it.

nos is not even close to being naturally aspirated (N/A).:nono:

How about "ALL MOTOR" & "POWER ADDERS" for the two groups. maybe that will help clear it up some.

[citizen caine]

This topic is a heated topic anywhere you go.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f5/car-spraying-nitrous-oxide-naturally-aspirated-43077/

But if you go to the track or talk to any gear head and tell them your car is naturally aspirated with nos, you should be prepared to be laughed at.

[Damkid]

This thread was definitely not meant to get heated, more simply to keep the members involved with how the lists are setup, and to help keep things as fair as possible

How about "ALL MOTOR" & "POWER ADDERS" for the two groups. maybe that will help clear it up some.

This is what I was thinking to do, but instead of "power adders" I'm thinking to put "boosted/nitrous festiva's" as the title

[citizen caine]

that would work as long as nobody uses a snail (supercharger)

[Damkid]

But superchargers are still boost, so they would be in with the turbo cars

[GenevaDirt]

This topic is a heated topic anywhere you go.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f5/car-spraying-nitrous-oxide-naturally-aspirated-43077/

But if you go to the track or talk to any gear head and tell them your car is naturally aspirated with nos, you should be prepared to be laughed at.

they can laugh all they want.....as stated in the post you referenced, it is not boosted...just enhanced. If we are to make a category for the nos cars then we would have to make a category for the turbo + nos cars. Power enhanced cars and non enhanced would cover it all. Also by the referenced thread....anything at all you did to the car...added bigger injectors, if it is carbed you changed to a bigger carb...cold air intake changes things too.....

[citizen caine]

But superchargers are still boost, so they would be in with the turbo cars

GOT ME ON THAT ONE.

[Damkid]

they can laugh all they want.....as stated in the post you referenced, it is not boosted...just enhanced. If we are to make a category for the nos cars then we would have to make a category for the turbo + nos cars. Power enhanced cars and non enhanced would cover it all. Also by the referenced thread....anything at all you did to the car...added bigger injectors, if it is carbed you changed to a bigger carb...cold air intake changes things too.....

Yes but right now, who on this forum runs nitrous? A complete separate category for nitrous is pointless for this forum since there's only 1 member with a nitrous run lol

[citizen caine]

they can laugh all they want.....as stated in the post you referenced, it is not boosted...just enhanced. If we are to make a category for the nos cars then we would have to make a category for the turbo + nos cars. Power enhanced cars and non enhanced would cover it all. Also by the referenced thread....anything at all you did to the car...added bigger injectors, if it is carbed you changed to a bigger carb...cold air intake changes things too.....

I posted that so you could see it is a heated topic anywhere you go.
Many valid points that make me understand both point of views.

I never said nos cars need to be in a separate group.
your either NA or your boosted and/or juiced


But if i ran into some guy driving any car that said his car was NA & i saw a bottle in it. One of two things are going to cross my mind.
1. this guy is lying & I cant trust anything he says.
2. this guy is an idiot and i should not listen to anything he says.

[GenevaDirt]

Yes but right now, who on this forum runs nitrous? A complete separate category for nitrous is pointless for this forum since there's only 1 member with a nitrous run lol

I agree....was just stating that if we did make a separate one for NA with nos then it would have to have one for Turbo with NOS

[GenevaDirt]

I posted that so you could see it is a heated topic anywhere you go.
Many valid points that make me understand both point of views.

I never said nos cars need to be in a separate group.
your either NA or your boosted and/or juiced


But if i ran into some guy driving any car that said his car was NA & i saw a bottle in it. One of two things are going to cross my mind.
1. this guy is lying & I cant trust anything he says.
2. this guy is an idiot and i should not listen to anything he says.

so anyone that agrees with the other side and not your side is an Idiot?

[citizen caine]

i hate to say it & i don't mean to offend anyone.
But to be honest.
If you tell me your car is NA and your spraying, Then YES 1 or 2 apply.

If been drag racing for 12 years now and thats how the cars are always classified

[GenevaDirt]

I posted that so you could see it is a heated topic anywhere you go.
Many valid points that make me understand both point of views.

I never said nos cars need to be in a separate group.
your either NA or your boosted and/or juiced


But if i ran into some guy driving any car that said his car was NA & i saw a bottle in it. One of two things are going to cross my mind.
1. this guy is lying & I cant trust anything he says.
2. this guy is an idiot and i should not listen to anything he says.

i hate to say it & i don't mean to offend anyone.
But to be honest.
If you tell me your car is NA and your spraying, Then YES 1 or 2 apply.

If been drag racing for 12 years now and thats how the cars are always classified

so your first statement saying you can see both sides because it is a hotly debated subject and there are valid points on each side contradicts your other statement. And then saying that you do not mean to offend is laughable....if you did not mean to offend then you would not be calling a person an IDIOT for the way they believe on a subject that you say you can see both sides of.

[Damkid]

Personally, if my nitrous kit was installed and someone asked me if I was boosted or N/A, I would say N/A, but I'd also clarify that I had nitrous as well

[citizen caine]

I will be the firs to admit i dont know squat about festivas, but i do know race cars.
Here is a link to my friends shop where we build purpose built race cars.
Every car on the customers page is a NA car except for the cutlass. Hes spraying a 300 shot.
These cars are running 1/4 mile times between 8-10 seconds now in the 1/4.

http://www.enmotionperformance.com/about.html

I know i will never be as knowable on festivas as most of you, but i hope i can help out when it comes to high performance race updates you guys might make.