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    So in this day and age I and sure glad i am driving what I am and not a H2 Hummer or Expedition. Thought i would start a thread on all ways to get EVEN BETTER mileage out of the lil Festy. I have an automatic, so thats the first thing that hurts me... i am on the lookout for a 4 or 5 spd parts car.

    Weight is also bad, so i am keeping it clean of debris and parts that find their way to the back seat and hatch area.

    What about removing the catalatic converter? I am in Oklahoma, no emission laws or tests to pass... less backpressure on the engine may result in better mileage i have heard. i may do this later.

    I've also been watching my tire pressures as incorrectly inflated tires have a negative impact on mileage.

    I heard this a while back about putting magnets (i don't know size) on either side of the fuel rail to help align the hydro-carbons before they enter the chamber for better efficiency on combustion ratio. anybody else heard about this? i am sure there are some variables but is this really effective?

    i just overhauled my engine 600 miles ago (new rings, rod bearings, valves, springs, minor port and polish on head) and i am seeing 32-34 mpg.. this is CITY though, as I drive 7 miles to work with 5 stop signs. i am "disappointed" i am not getting better.

    -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
    -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
    -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
    https://www.wunderground.com/persona...?ID=KOKOWASS38

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    35 is the best you are going to get with a auto. You are doing the right things otherwise. Just treat the gas and brake petal like you have a egg between your foot and petal. In city driving 5th gear will not help that much.

    David

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    • #3
      The cat is actually not hurting the MPG at all, in fact on my Durango removing it would actually harm it since the computer is programmed to work most efficiently with it. I'm in a non-emissions area too but I'll keep mine. The magnet thing sounds like snake oil, would like to hear someone explain that fully. Driving with extra weight and under-inflated tires is definitely a bad deal for MPG so take care of that for sure. Actually, although the manufacturer calls for 35 PSI on my Durango, I run them at the tire's spec of 41 PSI. It makes the ride a little stiffer but it does help MPG. The biggest MPG change I made on it was to add a K&N cold air intake. Now that stuff may sound good, but even still the hog Durango only gets 16 MPG!!! It was getting ~12 when I got it. This Festy is gonna save my financial life.

      Oh, and aside from careful driving habits, keep the little guy tuned up too.
      Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ejp2fast View Post
        I've also been watching my tire pressures as incorrectly inflated tires have a negative impact on mileage.
        Good idea for this thread been thinking of it myself, but you beat me to it!

        Low tire pressure will negatively impact mileage.
        Higher pressure will positively affect MPG, up to a point!
        over pressure will increase wear in the center of the tire, adversely impacting ride, and possibly handling.
        The key is higher pressure, but not too high.
        I currently run what the max pressure is on the side wall, no more!
        Ride is not pleasent, but I have lowering springs up front and it wasn't a smooth ride on a lumpy road anyway.
        Handeling is good and MPG is better!
        '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
        '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
        '92 Aqua parts Car
        '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
        '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

        "Your God of repentance will not save you.
        Your holy ghost will not save you.
        Your God plutonium will not save you.
        In fact...
        ...You will not be saved!"

        Prince of Darkness -1987

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        • #5
          "I drive 7 miles to work"

          Thought about getting a bicycle?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bathtub Tom View Post
            "I drive 7 miles to work"

            Thought about getting a bicycle?
            HA! yeah... actually I have. Biggest issue is CRAZY DRIVERS and the fact that I have business casual wear and no shower/change area.

            -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
            -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
            -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
            https://www.wunderground.com/persona...?ID=KOKOWASS38

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MeeMo View Post
              The biggest MPG change I made on it was to add a K&N cold air intake..
              anything for a 1.3 Festy as far as cold air intake goes? what about the intake sensor, how do you deal with that if it was a homemade job?

              -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
              -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
              -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
              https://www.wunderground.com/persona...?ID=KOKOWASS38

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ejp2fast View Post
                anything for a 1.3 Festy as far as cold air intake goes? what about the intake sensor, how do you deal with that if it was a homemade job?
                I'd like to know the same thing! I just got Pud so all I have to go on is the Durango. I'm looking to do everything possible to save MPG with the Festy.
                Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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                • #9
                  i was wondering about the tire pressure myself. i know some on the metro forums increase it alot, but i did wonder how much that would effect handling and wear on the tires. so thanks for being this up.
                  "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." -Mohandas Gandhi

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                  • #10
                    Increased tire pressure reduces the contact area with the road which reduces the rolling friction of the tires....a good thing for mpg. Also...the increase in tire pressure increases the tir diameter which increase the circumference which increases the distance traveled per tire revolution...also a good thing for mpg

                    However; inflate the tire to the point of pizza cutters is VERY VERY DANGEROUS!


                    Removing the cat will only help if its clogged....it will not mess with the ECU on the Festiva. On most late models...there are two O2 sensors. The second is after the cat and the ECU will detect if the cat is clogged or removed.

                    Want good milage per tank....do what my son does....he siphons out of his sister's car.
                    Joe Lutz

                    The SKATE ..... 1992L 5spd
                    The Greatest Purchase I Ever Made

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                    • #11
                      good upkeep is very important. i keep my festy running tip top and i get anywhere between 42-50mpg depending on how i drive the sucker.
                      1990 Festiva, flat-black, cab lights, 7" round headlights, and air horn!
                      ASE-Certified/KIA certified/HVAC Certified Automotive Technician in Medford, OR

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                      • #12
                        philiow313
                        Got a front view picture with those 7" rounds? Sounds interesting.
                        Charlie Z

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jglutz View Post
                          Want good milage per tank....do what my son does....he siphons out of his sister's car.
                          Hey, theres an idea. I could siphon out of the wife's 01 civic tank....

                          -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
                          -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
                          -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
                          https://www.wunderground.com/persona...?ID=KOKOWASS38

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MeeMo View Post
                            I'd like to know the same thing! I just got Pud so all I have to go on is the Durango. I'm looking to do everything possible to save MPG with the Festy.
                            as far as i kno, you cant get one from any parts place b/c of how the mass airflow sensor is. but i am currently tryin to figure something out to get around that.

                            but if anyone has already, i would deff. like to know what you did.
                            87 rx7
                            92L starsky and hutchstiva bp swap, aspire swap, side pipes(tranny swap on the way)
                            94 caddi deville
                            99 f250 LD 4x4 12 inch lift on 38s
                            ......

                            i need more festies.

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                            • #15
                              Slow down,don't race from light to light,don't carry anything in the car you don't need.
                              Give your car a good waxing.
                              Renegade-Midwest Festiva Inc.Illinois Chapter

                              93 Festiva L Aspire 5sp Lots of upgrades & mods
                              99 Dodge Caravan SE
                              95 Taurus SHO auto 265hp
                              94 F150 351W auto (for sale)
                              78 Chevy elcamino 500hp 383 stroker
                              78 Chrysler Cordoba 360 (for sale)
                              03 Harley Davidson Electra Glide
                              95 Honda 1500 Goldwing SE
                              95 F150 4X4 6 inch lift,38" mudders
                              95 Iszuzu Trooper LS

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