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  • JPT
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    Two more...

    Renault Alliance
    Renault Encore

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  • todd00
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    dont know if anyone mentioned the plymouth arrow. wasnt boxy, but kinda fun to drive. my friend had a arrow, i had a sapporo. both mitshu imports

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  • litesong
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    Originally posted by Sparky View Post
    I actually had one of those neat 'twin stick' Colts...an '83 model. You could say that it had 8 forward speeds, but using them that way was very impractical. Basically, I used it like a 5th gear...the stick looked just like any other 4-speed, but right next to the boot, there was a 2 position lever....forward, and you would have a bit better power...pull it back made the gears a bit taller. The Colt was a great little car and the only car I've owned that was even close to the kind of fun driving you get in a Festy.
    I had an 81 Plymouth Champ which was the Dodge Colt renamed. I had the 4 speed. Think the 4 speed was made to work with the twin stick, because the gear ratios were a bit weird as a 4 speed. But I loved my Champ, tho it was not good looking...Festiva is much better looking. Took my Champ up many logging roads to trailheads in the Cascade mountains. After 22 years & 150,000 miles I sold it. Saw it running around town 2 years after that.

    The Champ's engine had two valves per cylinder...plus an extra tiny intake valve that activated at low rpms. The tiny intake valve swirled the incoming air-fuel mixture to mix the fuel even finer for more complete combustion. It was all pretty theoretical, but I averaged 42MPG & hit 50 MPG on the road which made me pleased for decades.

    I would have loved the 8 forward speeds(the mountains, ya know).

    Only my 88 Festiva(yes, I had both cars at the same time) got better MPG(45MPG average & 53 MPG highway high).

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  • Sparky
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    Actually, the more I looked around online, maybe my memory is failing me....I think the original caption may be right after all. My bad.

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  • Sparky
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    That photo they have there is a 1983 model, I think....the earlier ones had an egg-crate grill. That one looks exactly like my 83 Colt...what an awesome lookin' pic, though!

    Here's an earlier Champ....this dude seems awfully hard on the old girl.

    Last edited by Sparky; 07-03-2008, 09:22 PM.

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  • CharlieZ
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    Good photo of 79 Plymouth Champ a.k.a. Dodge Colt a.k.a. Mitsubishi Colt at:
    From cars to motorcycles, Jalopnik is your go-to site covering everything with an engine—including automotive news, buying guides, and expert commentary from our staff.

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  • Futurefesty90
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    pontiac 1000
    chevy chevette (the doody years)
    daihatsu charade
    plymouth horizon
    daewoo lanos

    thats about all i can think of

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  • chrisofna
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    I was talking more along the lines of the Mitsubishi Colt hatchback, not the Minivan-looking thing. I believe both came in an AWD variant too.

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  • jglutz
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    ^^I have one...bought a left over '89 brand new, under 10K.

    5 door....7 seater....no comfort features...loud engine and road noise since day one...not alot of ground clearance.

    Just turned 100K....other than the rad fan motor and normal tune up....I never put any other parts or $'s into it

    The 4WD is Hydraulic (viscous) Couplings...pretty decent system.

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  • FB71
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    ^^^ I do, Colt Vista wagon, 4wd.

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  • Axlander9289
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    Originally posted by stefan View Post
    twin stick?? Sounds like a 2 speed transfer case
    Probably had two different final drives. I don't recall a 4wd Colt.

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  • worfdog
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    Originally posted by FB71 View Post
    nova was a Corolla, LeMans was built by Daewoo
    Daewoo, must be the reason i haven't seen a LeMans in many moons.

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  • stefan
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    twin stick?? Sounds like a 2 speed transfer case

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  • FB71
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    nova was a Corolla, LeMans was built by Daewoo

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  • worfdog
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    does anybody remember the pontiac le mans and the chevy nova of the late 80's? i know the nova was a toyota, can't remember who made the le mans.

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