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  • I may buy an Aspire and someone else will drive it...

    I have four Festies now, but one will be chopped up soon and made into a trailer and parts.

    I'll have three left. One will be in the garage for a thorough overhaul for awhile.

    I'm thinking of buying an Aspire and letting my back alley neighbor keep it in her parking spot and let her drive it.

    I don't know her that well. She's renting the house behind me. She seems nice enough. Nothing romantic is involved.

    I figure I'll buy the car, fix it up, and do all the repairs. She'll be responsible for the following:

    -pay full insurance
    -pay the deductable if she wrecks it
    -pay for gas, since she's using it
    -pay for oil changes (I'll charge her $10 a pop to do it)
    -pay for any minor repairs she causes (bent fenders, flat tires, etc.)
    -$10 per month for six months to help me with the titling costs (about half)

    Just talked with her and she likes the idea.

    What do ya'll think? Any legal pitfalls I'm not thinking about here?

    It'll be a simple contract written up.

    Karl
    '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
    '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
    '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
    '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
    '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

  • #2
    I see no problems, other than making sure that you can have one name on the title and another on the insurance.

    Sounds like a great way keep the car on the road and help someone out.


    -Tim
    White '89L auto - Sold!
    Silver '06 Rav4, 95k!

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    • #3
      What are the penalties for failing to hold up her end of the bargain?
      What happens if she wrecks it and the insurance co totals it?
      '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
      '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
      '92 Aqua parts Car
      '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
      '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

      "Your God of repentance will not save you.
      Your holy ghost will not save you.
      Your God plutonium will not save you.
      In fact...
      ...You will not be saved!"

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      • #4
        Penalties if she doesn't hold up her end on costs:

        I have to find somewhere else to keep the car. I could sell it, too.

        If she wrecks it: I'll make sure she has full insurance. According to the contract, she'll be liable for the deductable. If the car gets wrecked, it gets wrecked. I may be able to "buy it back" and use the parts.

        I have no immediate plans for this "brake swap" if I get it. (I don't really want the suspension from a '94. I'll be looking for a really nice '96 or '97 when it's time for Twin to get her suspension swap.)

        What do you think, John?

        Thanks Tim.

        Karl
        '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
        '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
        '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
        '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
        '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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        • #5
          Just as long as your OK with the loss if she wrecks it and you are not libel for anything she may do with it.

          Tim as a good point about the name on insurance vs title, not sure how Ohio works.
          But you could be the payee on the insurance contract if you "rented" the car to her for $1/year!
          Just a thought.
          '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
          '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
          '92 Aqua parts Car
          '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
          '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

          "Your God of repentance will not save you.
          Your holy ghost will not save you.
          Your God plutonium will not save you.
          In fact...
          ...You will not be saved!"

          Prince of Darkness -1987

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          • #6
            I know that someone else can own a car and another have the insurance in their name....my mother did it when she was buying a car from a private owner once.
            "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
            89L Silver EFI auto
            91GL Green Auto DD
            There ain't no rest for the wicked
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            I will sleep when I die!
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            • #7
              Yeah, thanks Willie. I'll be checking into that aspect.

              I can also see the potential value in "renting" to her for a buck a year. That may clear things up.

              Karl
              '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
              '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
              '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
              '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
              '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Safety Guy View Post
                I'm thinking of buying an Aspire and letting my back alley neighbor keep it in her parking spot and let her drive it.

                I don't know her that well. She's renting the house behind me. She seems nice enough. Nothing romantic is involved.
                I'm not sure why you would do this. To help her out apparently? Kinda shaky that you don't know her that well.

                If she's paying full-coverage insurance, she can afford to use that money to just buy it from you over a period of six months or so, and then only pay the minimum coverage needed by law. In other words just loan her the bux to buy it, then pay you back over time. That would really help her out because then she would own it. And a much tidier situation.
                90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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                • #9
                  Tom has a point
                  Unless you really want the aspire and she just needs a car until she finds one of her own

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                  92 GL - parts car
                  97 aspire - parts car
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                  • #10
                    Thread hijack:
                    Trevor, are you still at work, or at a friend's that has internet?
                    I'll call you tmw to see if you want to buy the 323. Talked with John about* it, and he's fine as long as he gets dibs if/when you sell it.

                    * "aboot" in Canada; sometimes "abowt". Not in Quebec though; I think they speak Spanish or something there.
                    Last edited by TominMO; 04-29-2010, 07:57 PM.
                    90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                    09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                    You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                    Disaster preparedness

                    Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                    Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                    • #11
                      Festy-tunner said:

                      "Unless you really want the aspire and she just needs a car until she finds one of her own."

                      Yep. She can't afford to buy a car and I want it. It'd be really nice if it were a great condition '90LX in yellow, but it's a nice looking, relatively low miles '95 Aspire 4 door in that weird pinkish metallic dusty mauve color. I find that hard to resist.

                      She's checking on the insurance cost.

                      It's nowhere near a done deal yet. I may wake up, smell some strong coffee and then come to my senses at any moment.

                      Karl
                      '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
                      '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
                      '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
                      '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
                      '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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                      • #12
                        I want to say insurance on my 97 egg ran 86 a month for full coverage with towing.
                        As long as you have a well written contract and have it noterized you should be safe - but know that something may happen and you may have to act on the contract. Best case you work it out without issues and no court.

                        91 L - modified to SLX- "Tin Can Project"
                        http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2850897
                        92 GL - parts car
                        97 aspire - parts car
                        87 323 DX - daily driver

                        Visit My Store - New Products available!
                        http://www.cafepress.com/tunner

                        Car enthusiasts will respect all makes and models that preform.
                        Brand enthusiasts are the root of all problems in the car community.

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                        • #13
                          Make sure there is something in the contract that says if she gets hurt from anything caused by the car that it is not your fault, like if seatbelts break or the airbags don't go off in a wreck, that way she can't come back and sue you because the title is under your name.
                          '90 LX

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wybnrml View Post
                            Make sure there is something in the contract that says if she gets hurt from anything caused by the car that it is not your fault, like if seatbelts break or the airbags don't go off in a wreck, that way she can't come back and sue you because the title is under your name.
                            This kinda thing is why I feel that the arrangement is too messy. I'd rather see you just buy it for her, stick it in her name immediately, and she pay you back. Then you're in the clear no matter what. Very worst case scenario, she moves to Guam or somewhere and you lose a few hundred bux. Beats any of the other possibilities with the original arrangement you proposed in the beginning of this thread.
                            90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                            09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                            You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                            Disaster preparedness

                            Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                            Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                            • #15
                              Or you could buy it bring it to my house then leave it their forever :p I have no legal issues with that idea
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