Is this possible?

[muddevil01]

Ok so the other day I made a deal for a super clean 89l with a bad motor and good 4 speed. When I went to look at the car I noticed that the guy also had an 88 323 sitting there so long story short I bought both cars for 300 for the pair. So my question is. Is this a feasible swap for this car? I know that I would have to switch the Festiva wiring to fuel injected. Could I use the whole wiring harness out of the 323 and swap it into the Festiva since I have to swap all the wiring on the Festiva anyway. Or do I have to find a whole Festiva harness? I don't know how much different the two cars are. I'm just trying to kill two birds with one stone since I have the whole 323. Also the 323 is showing 120,00 miles on it should I rebuild it? Sorry for the long post and if this is in the wrong section let me know And I can repost it in the proper section thanks

[Damkid]

You can re-use the whole 323 drivetrain in your festiva, although its a lot of work to convert a festiva from carb'd to EFI, so if it was me i'd re-use the stock festiva carb'd intake on the B6 from the 323 and put a slightly bigger carb on it.... also the B6 from the 323 is a direct swap, re-use the stock festiva mounts and it will bolt right in, the intake and exhaust manifolds are interchangable as well so IF you use the Exhaust manifold then you shouldn't need to modify your exhaust either

The 323 tranny is a lot bigger then the stock tranny and unless you plan to significantly increase, i'd just re-use the stock tranny, it'll save you from making mounts

[iceracerdude]

I would not make that 323 engine into carbed, that's just wrong. Everthing on the 323 is better starting with the trans and including the chassi design. I'd fix the 323 because it's a dream to work on too, take a look at how much room there is in the engine bay for starters, talk about options Switching the engine, ecu, harness and making the festy fuel injected while keeping the festy trans is the "easiest" deal.
Remember, there are already fuel injected festy's, so it's not like you're pioneering the concept. You can buy all of the parts you need either new OR used.
Show a pic of the 323 and tell us what engine/trans it's got because we're all assuming it's a b6.

[fastivaca]

If it is the B6 your stock transmission will hold up quite nicely. I'm running a modified B6 with stock trans with no problems at all.

[muddevil01]

O.k it has a b6 with a manual transmission it is just a base model 323 it has been rearended so fixing it is out. So it is possible to switch the b6 to a carbed motor? What all is involved in that? I know that switching it to carb. isn't the best for performance but I'm kind of looking for simplicity since I was already going to have to find a motor for the festy and I got a heck of a deal on them.I just figured that a b6 was better than a b3 so I just want the easiest least amount of hassle swap for now. So any ideas will be great thanks

[Festy46]

I bought a B6 that was carbed off eBay one time. The mounting bolt pattern for the B6 carb was the same as the B3. The vacuum chamber for the secondary side was a little different, but other than that it looked about the same. I never compared the jet sizes because I prefer to use the 1.6l Ford Escort early eighties carb. It is about the same as the Weber carb, but can be bought a lot cheaper (on Ebay). You would need an adapter plate or you can have the intake manifold built up with weld and then re-drill and tap the intake to fit the Escort carb. You can completely eliminate that mess of vacuum hoses (except for the vacuum advance) with the Escort/Weber carb. See the picture below of one of my Escort carbed engines.

[iceracerdude]

Now there's a decient option, that came out pretty good! Good job, nice and uncluttered.

[Festy46]

Now there's a decient option, that came out pretty good! Good job, nice and uncluttered.

Did you notice I also eliminated the PCV valve and replaced it with natural crankcase ventilation like the cars from the 50's? No sense in burning hot crankcase fumes when you can have all fresh air.

[muddevil01]

I have found threads on a b6 fuel injection swaps but I don't see any on how to swap a b6 to carb what all is needed to do the swap if there is already a thread on this let me know so that I can begin reading

[Festiva Time]

I would go with a Weber Carb, if you can. Gets you away from all those vacuum hose & emission "poop"!. It will be able to handle the needs of the larger engine.

-Kirk

[Festy46]

I have found threads on a b6 fuel injection swaps but I don't see any on how to swap a b6 to carb what all is needed to do the swap if there is already a thread on this let me know so that I can begin reading

If you're putting the B6 in a Festy that is already carbed it is fairly simple. If you want to keep all the smog crap then swap the intake and carb as a unit. If not, then get a carb adapter or re-work the carb mount on the intake to accept the Weber or Escort carb. Get rid of all the vacuum lines except the 2 that go to the vacuum advance on the distributor. Use a B6 intake manifold gasket. Put the distributor from the carbed B3 on the B6. Put the thermostat housing from the B3 on the B6 and also swap the lower radiator hose housing that attaches to the water pump. If your B6 doesn't have a fuel pump lobe on the cam or a hole in the head for the fuel pump, you would need to get a "stand alone" electric fuel pump. If your head has the fuel pump hole but no lobe, you can swap cams from the B3. I don't think I forgot anything. If I did, somebody can probably add to this.

[drddan]

muddevil01
You can check out my Weber install here:
http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=30959

I'm lovin' it! Runs like a bat out of h_ _ _! I'd put it up against an EFI b3 anyday.

I doubt they could keep up though

[boydg1]

I have two questions: where does the hose go from the PVC fitting on the left side of the valve cover??
and on the opposite side of the valve cover, where does the fresh air breather hose go or attach to??



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Thanks

I bought a B6 that was carbed off eBay one time. The mounting bolt pattern for the B6 carb was the same as the B3. The vacuum chamber for the secondary side was a little different, but other than that it looked about the same. I never compared the jet sizes because I prefer to use the 1.6l Ford Escort early eighties carb. It is about the same as the Weber carb, but can be bought a lot cheaper (on Ebay). You would need an adapter plate or you can have the intake manifold built up with weld and then re-drill and tap the intake to fit the Escort carb. You can completely eliminate that mess of vacuum hoses (except for the vacuum advance) with the Escort/Weber carb. See the picture below of one of my Escort carbed engines.