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    ….After listening to those of us (on here ) who are having cold morning idling problems, including myself, I decided to give the problem some thought. This is a stopgap fix for manual transmissions, NOT intended for automatics. You will still have to pump the accelerator pedal many times before turning the key to start. Which means this fix does NOT fix the choke but what it does do is to allow your engine to continue to stay running once it starts with your foot off the accelerator and then you can adjust your RPM's accordingly until it runs long enough to WARM UP and be on your way normally.

    This is what I did:

    1.) Drilled a 3/32” hole approximately 2” down from were the throttle cable attaches to the accelerator pedal through the fire wall ( right at the top of the groove in the center of the pedal, as close as possible, see pic.

    2.) Then I cut off a piece of solid wire cable (1/16” dia.) from the OLD cable control I had on hand ( see pic ) approximately 3” or so and made a HOOK that would go through the 3/32” hole made in the accelerator pedal. Make the hook long enough and round enough at the radius so it will go through the pedal with force, and once in place it will lock itself there. Once the hook is done, on the other end you want to make it round twice about 3/16” in dia. ( so there is NO chance the spring will jump out) and try to keep the round end and the hook end as close together as possible about 1” (see pic.).

    3.) Spring, you will have to do some experimenting here. I though I had a strong enough spring but didn't, then I went to a slightly shorter, but stronger, spring, about 2 1/4” long X 3/8” to 1/2” dia. That is working OK for now but I will replace it with an even stronger spring still. You may have to close the ends of your spring that you use in a complete loop ( so it can't come off the control cable). (see the pics. and you should get some idea)

    4.) The control cable I attached below the radio and next to my right leg to an existing support recess and screw hole but does NOT interfere with my leg (see pic) . Also used the existing large flat washer that was there to fill the existing screw hole RECESS in mounting the control bracket. Also, replaced the existing SCREW with a longer one, approximately 1/4” longer same thread dia.
    …. You will have to FIT and CUT your cable control to size based on the (pics.) as an outline. I did my best to keep the cable to the RIGHT side of the accelerator pedal so it does NOT interfere with the pedal STOP adjustment bolt (see pic.). Once you have the control bracket mounted and the cable correctly sized you will need to put another, approximately, 3/16” round loop (Twice) on the end of the control cable to connect to the other end of the spring coming from the pedal.

    5.) You will notice in the last (pic.) I used a small cable clamp with two adjustment nuts, that is because there was NOT enough resistance in my control cable to hold a given position. So I put this clamp on the control cable and kept tightening up until I had enough resistance to hold a given position. The white material that you see in the pic is the glue from the DUCK TAPE that was used to keep from burning my leg on those long trips.

    NOTE: This is NOT an easy fix to apply working under the dash like I have done. You will twist yourself in all kinds of directions and never finding a comfortable position not to mention the patience you need which are most necessary.
    .... If I had reliable information about this carburetor I would prefer to just fix the choke and be done with it. But until that happens I guess we will have to settle for stopgaps similar to this.

    This solved my immediate dilemma, wish you the best.

    ...
    Last edited by boydg1; 12-10-2010, 10:24 AM.
    A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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    Throttle Control For Cold Morning Festivas page 2 of 4
    A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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      A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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        A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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        • #5
          bracket

          Did that bracket have a round mounting hole for the cable or did it have a flat to not allow the cable control handle to turn?

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          • #6
            ... "ROUND" no flat side. The cable has a natural curve to it which allows you to pretty much put the connecting end where you want it. I kept it to the right side as much as possible to avoid any conflicts.



            Originally posted by bravekozak View Post
            Did that bracket have a round mounting hole for the cable or did it have a flat to not allow the cable control handle to turn?
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            A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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            • #7
              could this also be used for smooth-road cruise control??

              -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
              -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
              -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
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              • #8
                .... I would NOT even think about doing something like that. A good way to get yourself killed, if not badly injured.


                .... NOTE: When you step on the gas pedal you automatically cancel your fast idle setting untill you let your BIG foot off the gas pedal.


                Originally posted by ejp2fast View Post
                could this also be used for smooth-road cruise control??
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                A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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                • #9
                  This is a cool idea, but how is it better than just converting to manual choke like i did?

                  By the way, ^^^ That's 99.9% city driving :cool:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Evil D View Post
                    This is a cool idea, but how is it better than just converting to manual choke like i did?
                    Not better, but he actually posted pics, like you said you were going to.
                    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                    '92 Aqua parts Car
                    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                    Your holy ghost will not save you.
                    Your God plutonium will not save you.
                    In fact...
                    ...You will not be saved!"

                    Prince of Darkness -1987

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                    • #11
                      LOL yeah...i'm a slacker. And i wasn't trying to be smart or anything..i was honestly asking if there was an advantage.

                      By the way, ^^^ That's 99.9% city driving :cool:

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                      • #12
                        Actually like your solution better!
                        I wouldn't want to mess with the gas petal.
                        Yours is direct, you actuate the choke manually.
                        As a matter of fact, I wonder if anyone can take some picks of the '88 carbies manual choke and see if there is an easier way to set your solution up?
                        '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                        '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                        '92 Aqua parts Car
                        '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                        '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                        "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                        Your holy ghost will not save you.
                        Your God plutonium will not save you.
                        In fact...
                        ...You will not be saved!"

                        Prince of Darkness -1987

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                        • #13
                          If there was a factory manual choke option, i'd love to see it. Mine is pretty much idiot proof, but there doesn't seem to be a fast idle with mine, which i bet there is on the factory manual choke. On my setup, i can only open and close the choke...whereas on a true manual choke, the linkage also bumped the throttle open a little to increase the idle RPM at the same time. Maybe both of these solutions together is a good idea?

                          By the way, ^^^ That's 99.9% city driving :cool:

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