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    Read through quite a few posts but haven't really got a good answer if it'll kill it or not! Got a free tow bar from my grandpa this weekend. So if I try to flat-tow the auto Festiva just how long will it last? Any bets? I have another transmission if it kills it. Not planning on towing over 4 hours and stopping every 1.5 hours. I guess I could let it idle.
    91 rusty Festiva 260k

  • #2
    Hmmm...could drain the fluid and remove the half shafts? Too much work?
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    • #3
      Yeah to much work. Would like to buy a tow dolly but time will tell.
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      • #4
        Renting one should only be like 60 bucks for a day...
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        • #5
          Or just let the engine run. That runs the pump.
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          • #6
            ..forgot you had the camper and are probably wanting a dolly to own...not just needing it to transport a Festy one time.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Prafeston View Post
              Hmmm...could drain the fluid and remove the half shafts? Too much work?
              Best option short of a tow dolly.

              Originally posted by ericsmith32 View Post
              Yeah to much work. Would like to buy a tow dolly but time will tell.
              More work than swapping out the tranny later.
              Think you can undo the axle nut, remove the pinch nut/bolt and can remove the axle, which will immediately drain the tranny.
              You MUST have a nut and bolt, or better, a set of outer axle shafts (bolted in place) to hold the hub together!
              Otherwise, they will self disassemble in a very short time, like 10's of feet.

              Originally posted by bhazard View Post
              Or just let the engine run. That runs the pump.
              Per FB71 this is insufficient.
              At idle the volume of fluid is insufficient to lubricate the tranny while the wheels are driving the tranny at an RPM much higher than what it sees at idel.
              I thought this was a good idea too, till it was explained.
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              • #8
                ^Why couldn't you start it up, put in in neutral, and adjust the idle to an RPM that it would see if it was driving? Or maybe a bit lower than that since(I would assume) the trans would have less stress on it than if it were actually transferring power.

                Might pull the plug on the IAC while you're at it in case the PCM get's freaky on you, but still very easy to do.
                Last edited by sketchman; 07-11-2013, 11:52 AM.
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                • #9
                  Uhaul rents dollys out for a pretty cheap....
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                  • #10
                    ^ how I got mine home

                    If you pull the axles, you'll have to take them apart and leave the outer cup in the hub. Otherwise, it'll fall apart.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bhazard View Post
                      Uhaul rents dollys out for a pretty cheap....
                      I believe the OP is wanting to trailer his Festiva all over the place behind his RV. Renting a Uhaul everytime wouldn't be cost effective after a couple trips!
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                      • #12
                        Yeah looked at renting one on occasion it defiantly wouldn't be cost effective unfortunately. Can buy one for $700 used it looks like. I'm kinda at a cross roads. We have 4 vehicles.. 04 Escape, 02 Focus, Festiva and the RV.. and only 2 drivers which 1 is a stay at home mom. Can't part with the first 2 and the last the Festiva is the odd ball. Other than keeping it around nolgastic reasons that's about it. Decision decisions...
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                        • #13
                          I have seen dolly's that you drive the front wheels onto the dolly, and tow that way. The front wheels are not on the ground, and not spinning.
                          I would go that route if I wanted to tow an auto car.
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                          • #14
                            Manual trans swap it? Probably can do that for cheaper than buying a dolly.
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                            • #15
                              Actually that option would be free since I have a parts car with manual trans.. except the clutch. May just do that really like my auto though!
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