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  • MPG difference for a festiva 4spd vs 5sp

    Hey guys,

    I'm looking to get a festiva again! Have not had one for about 8 years or so. I wanted to get a 5spd for best fuel economy but I have been able to find an 88 with a 4spd that may just work.

    I drive 36 miles each way to work every day of which about 30 each way is interstate driving. How much difference will I be looking at in mpg to go with the 4spd vs the 5spd?

    Also, how much work would it be to change over to a 5spd later on? Do I need anything besides the transmission?

    Thank for the help guys, I can not wait to get back into a festy!

  • #2
    I had an 88 4spd for a bit. Gave me 42mpg floggging it nearly constantly. I was 18 and worked 45 minutes from home.
    Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

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    • #3
      I got at least 45 mph with the 5 speed
      Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

      Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

      Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
      it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

      Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

      TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
      bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

      '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

      SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

      R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

      R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


      R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

      R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

      R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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      • #4
        I just swaped from a 5 speed to a 4 speed.
        (5 went bad) and keeping the some driving habits and conditions.
        I lost 1-2 mpgs .
        The difference in 4-5 speed is about 400 rpm.
        More annoying than anything I keep trying to shift to 5th lol.

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        • #5
          Was there anything needed besides the trans for the swap?

          Thanks for the input guys!

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          • #6
            Nope, just trans.
            No festiva for me ATM...

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            • #7
              Drop your speed by 5 MPH and you will have little or no loss in MPGs.
              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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              • #8
                my 89 came with a 4 speed and it was great around town but od interstate rpm's were high and then I went to a 5 speed and it's a lot better on the interstate but the 4 speed was the best for in town use my 4 speed was the one geared low, as far as mpg's like been said 1-2 loss with 4 speed if you run over 55-60 but about the same if speed kept under 60mph

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the info guys. So I have found a 4 speed that I am going to check out... I guess now I should not rule it out as a possible purchase... I was thinking the 5sp would gain me more than stated.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by william View Post
                    More annoying than anything I keep trying to shift to 5th lol.
                    Not as annoying as reaching for the shifter and pushing the clutch in an automatic while coming to a stop.

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                    • #11
                      I think that final drive was the same for both so the only difference would be in acceleration and choosing optimal rpm at less than highway speeds. Now if in fact 5 speeds featured overdrive and 4's didn't then mileage difference would be most noticeable only at highway speeds. 3 speed Autos definitely take a hit mileage-wise of about 10% compared to a 5 speed Manual; I have driven both for almost 10 years.

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