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  • WSJ article: What your car really costs you

    Found this on yahoo, from the Wall Street Journal. Although I think the author emphasizes some costs a bit too much, it is good food for thought:



    From the article:

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    Your car could be driving your budget into the ground.

    If you're driving 15,000 miles a year—not uncommon for an American worker—in a midsize sedan such as a Toyota Camry or Ford Fusion, you'll spend more than $760 a month on average, or $9,150 a year, on gas, maintenance, tires, full-coverage insurance, license and registration costs, depreciation and finance charges.

    That's according to an annual report by AAA, the auto club, on driving costs in 2013, based on buying a new car and driving it for five years and 75,000 miles.

    But your costs easily could be higher.

    Got an SUV? It will cost you about $967 a month, or $11,600 a year, according to AAA.

    And don't forget those one-time and infrequent costs not included in the AAA report—say, $10 a pop for a carwash every other month, an occasional parking ticket of, say, $40. Perhaps you're also shelling out for paid parking at the baseball game or a downtown garage. Add $300 a year for those types of charges. Let's just say you avoid budget-busting speeding tickets.

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    There's more at the link.

    To me, this really shows the extra expense (I wanted to use the term "folly", but I won't) of a new car, from the time you drive it off the lot (instant depreciation) to when you are insuring it and other things down the road. I've always thought it much better to get a two or three year old car and avoid the several thousand dollars of depreciation, at least.

    Once the warranties have expired, repair costs will, of course, be more on a several year old car, but once you get even farther down the road, as we do with our Festivas and Aspires, things can get even better.

    Once you have the tools, space, know-how and interest to do your own work, you are pretty much taking what most other car buyers consider "junk" and recrafting it!

    Consider this simple list:

    New car: $11K to sky's the limit

    Two to three year old car: $7K or so on up

    Eight to ten year old car: $2K to $4K and up

    Over ten years old: How low can we go? Often, just above scrap prices...with under $1K being quite common.


    However, while buying a "middle aged" car will invite certain repair costs (often occurring around 75 to 100 thousand miles, depending on how it was taken care of, and buying a really old (usually well over 100K miles) car will too, the older the car and the more experience you have at fixing them, the more boldness in choosing better quality parts, doing more modifications, etc. will be.

    Essentially, just here at this site, we have seen folks mostly or even entirely rebuild really old, "junk" cars in a way that used to be thought appropriate only for "collectables."

    Think about this.

    As we go on, with many of us choosing to stick with Festivas and Aspires (and possibly on to Kia Rios!), now consider our costs taken into the future, amortized over not five to seven years (as many new cars would be), and not even over ten or fifteen years, but over say, TWENTY TO THIRTY YEARS (or more!).

    Who knows what the future holds?

    Karl, gloating

    PS: Just don't get hit by an SUV doing more than 30mph...
    '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
    '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
    '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
    '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
    '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

  • #2
    I just ran across an article (Yahoo? MSN?) claiming that some banks will now factor in your commute distance (and cost) on a mortgage app when computing DTI (debt-to-income) ratio, which, by reducing your surplus cash every month, indirectly affects how much you can borrow. I think they used a figure of something like $1/mile for every mile over 50 per day.

    I figure my Festies cost me about 9-10 cents per mile, including gas, maintenance, 300/500/100 insurance, a $100/year "umbrella" policy that bumps my liability coverage (on anything I do, not just driving) up to a megabuck limit.
    88L black, dailydriver
    88LX silver a/c, dailydriver
    4 88/89 disassembled
    91L green
    91GL aqua pwrsteer
    92GL red a/c reardmg
    3 93L blue, 2 dailydriver, 1 frontdmg
    1952 Cessna170B floatplane

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    • #3
      I have experienced what the article talks about. I had a 2011(or around there) Ford Focus. Besides my personal niggles about it, which there were really just a few, and one BIG one, there is the depreciation. In order to avoid having to have gap insurance, I would have had to put $1k/month into the loan to keep it below book value. Plus gas, plus full coverage insurance which was about another $300/month for both of those together. And of course there is tires, oil changes, and so on.

      So $1300/month just to have the car, and when you consider depreciation you're really just taking at least the $1k/month and lighting it on fire, because you're only keeping up with it. So you put in the $1k and then the car depreciates $1k to match it. That doesn't go on forever of course, because the car is worth something once the depreciation levels off, but in my case I had an $11k loan amount, and easily half that would be eaten up by depreciation by the time I'd have paid it off. So take $5.5k and burn it. A sickening feeling.

      I kept it for about 6 months and just didn't worry about keeping up with the sinking worth of it.
      Last edited by sketchman; 03-22-2014, 05:24 PM.
      Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

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      • #4
        Lately every time I pull into the JY, someone comes up offering to buy my car (Matthew) or at least praise it, saying they used to have one and loved it.
        Last edited by TominMO; 03-22-2014, 08:41 PM.
        90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
        09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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