FMS catalogue facsimilie?

[bobstad]

I wonder if anyone has a facsimilie of the FMS catalogue?

I guess, using a computer's webarchive function; a person could've saved one from the internet.

I used to day dream, about the things I'd like to do with my car; though have long since lamented the demise of FMS, apparently-while also noticing as time went on, there'd been some lessening of what they'd had to offer. Which must've been a labor of love; no doubt.

If there were interest, perhaps the website here; could offer the FMS catalogue as a sticky? For educational purposes, rather than commercial ones.

[Bert]

My only personal experience with Roger's (FestivaMotorSport) site (4 years ago) was being told every time "I only have two of those left, these have been sold out, this is out of stock, that is a backorder item, and the other has been discontinued". The man could have done a thriving business with Festy folks (10,000+ FF.com members 4 years ago!) but he fatally injured himself by not answering emails nor his phone nor making any effort to cash-in on 'one stop shopping' for ordinary folks that couldn't get hold of a spindle nut or an e-brake cable through normal (NAPA, Can Tire etc) channels.

[nonamekid]

If there was a lot of money to be made, someone else would have opened up a store by now. Roger did it for the love of festivas, not to get rich.

[bobstad]

My only personal experience with Roger's (FestivaMotorSport) site (4 years ago) was being told every time "I only have two of those left, these have been sold out, this is out of stock, that is a backorder item, and the other has been discontinued". The man could have done a thriving business with Festy folks (10,000+ FF.com members 4 years ago!) but he fatally injured himself by not answering emails nor his phone nor making any effort to cash-in on 'one stop shopping' for ordinary folks that couldn't get hold of a spindle nut or an e-brake cable through normal (NAPA, Can Tire etc) channels.

From these forums, I've had the impression service deteriorated over time-since too much work for a family cottage type industry, as they'd been able to do that. My own experience was that I needed to massage the process a little; simply being attentive to anything which could've added to the convenience on the other end, getting my product to me.

Too bad some consortium of the rest of us, hadn't the foresight nor means; to've somehow taken over from Roger, at a crucial yet optimal enough juncture. There seemed to be certainly an avid and intelligent sensitivity to what could be useful, with our cars; combined with generally creative approaches and automotive knowledge.

I don't know how well they'd done things, on no doubt quite a few other levels; one would guess or more accurately imagine, could be a great number of facets to such an endeavor? If more an enthusiast's then an entrepreneurial enterprise; that certainly could've meant time spent, anyone could covet for other things.

Not to mention, someone successful at the business end; might well of created more streamlined a process, easier to survive-and morph as necessary...with something giving congenial return, on investments. Even being able to sell out, to another party willing to continue; seems like part of what could've been...though I'm so peripheral at best, there are no doubt those around still-far more able to conjecture.

I've been looking in the net lately, about an interesting car the MG 1100 also produced under different badges with nearly identical mechanicals; so that three million were sold in the UK alone. And there has grown up an owner/admirer network devoted to those; which also has some parts connections.

No doubt any car or whatever, deemed worthy; will have support systems long after those of the manufacturer and allied agents, have become a dwindling minority of resource repositories. So, sadly with our cars; there's been someone obviously inspired, yet where somehow, the ball got dropped-we'd perhaps agree, too soon in the game.

Thus, were Roger himself or anyone close enough, prone to be interested enough for a modest, passive role in passing along the necessary as available; perhaps some faculty or faculties of his facility, could still be engendered by others? Nothing I'm up to; though probably would take advantage of-so knowing the way to get folks like myself, to somehow help further such aims-might end up helpful, too.

And, yeah; the email thing would've been annoying, to anyone expecting standard operating practices. I'd guess they'd likely been inundated; while also possibly less than well into, the most effective procedures?

There were certainly sympathetic forum members, frequently advising folks what the best means of approaching FMS would be-while also giving detailed descriptions of the actual conditions, from what often seemed quite personal and definitely sympathetic points of view.

Perhaps even the tragic death of the forum's founder DJ; could've had something to do with Roger's eventual loss of interest, too?

[Bert]

High end (or any) user/collector etc. car owners don't nickle and dime anywhere near like Festy owners do. I figure Roger threw in the towel (he did list quite a bit of really nice custom stuff) because he got thoroughly fed up with hearing "I really gotta have that man but all I got on me is $20".

[neanderpaul]

If there was a lot of money to be made, someone else would have opened up a store by now. Roger did it for the love of festivas, not to get rich.

x2

[M3NTAL]

I have a FMS catalog printed out along with installs

[sketchman]

You can use the wayback machine to see the old stuff. I'm working on creating a local copy of the website, but I don't know how useful that's going to be. They don't keep whole versions of the website. What they do is have portions of the website at different dates, and then you get linked all over the place to create the illusion of a snapshot of the whole site. So the site downloader has to go all over the place to get everything instead of just having XX date of the whole website in XX directory. Very annoying.

If I can get anything useful out of it I'll post it up, but I don't have high hopes. If I'd only done it back in 05 or 06 it would have worked perfectly.

[F3BZ]

a lot of the JDM and OEM ford parts he offered were getting harder for him to purchase as there was a limited inventory to be had. the fiberglass parts he contracted to another party but he had to box and ship them. probably not much profit left. there's no doubt in my opinion that roger was/is as passionate about festys as anyone here but the business was a sideline and as anybody in their 40s or older knows, putting in another 4 or so hrs after your regular 8 starts to get old. the Festiva Motorsport name/site was and may still be for sale but unless you are talented enough to fab most of the saleable parts, i don't know what you could sell that can't still be had from various other vendors. Cusco strut tower bars are still available from Japan but all the ford GTX suspension parts are history. roger himself is looking to buy the GTX DOHC mounting bracket that he used to sell.

[sketchman]

Hehe. It's at 57,000 directories and 12,000 files and still going. Probably giving up. I'd have to dig through all that to make something out of it.

Just go to https://web.archive.org/web/20040226034645/http://www.festivamotorsport.com/ and you can see just about everything as it was back in 2004.

[bobstad]

I'm always on "pause" these days; longing for "fast forward" or even "reverse"

Hey,

Just wanted to get back to my own thread; to remark the Festiva has been inactive in "dry-dock" since the summer before this past one-needing relatively simple major minor maintenance at 180,000 miles: So that, anything including this thread I've posted, I do here; are at the back of my mind, though worthwhile when I find the time-to want to post about, while then entertaining part of the dialogue-as time permits.

So, if I'm not following up; trying to work actively at what's been presented, doesn't mean I won't someday. I see the car daily, a few feet in front of the door to my apartment; which is amazing lately, since neanderpaul sent me a private message photo of the front of the car, taken from near my front door-who my next door neighbor met, though he'd not been able to find me, who'd chanced to notice the car while in town.

I've had some tough times for a relative lightweight, amongst any of the years I've been on the planet; though lately here the past few, I can feel like targeted by carrion feeders-more than a little irksome. Not only the Festiva, there are many other prizes-considering my relatively low-income, though an assured one I've only worked for in the past-because from Social Security Disability Insurance/State Supplemental Income.

That's the proverbial "bitch" since so difficult, as well as a hot political issue; reactionaries and many conservatives, being grossly misinformed and/or viciously predisposed against any of the aspects of the social safety net; they've hated since the depression of the 1930s, when communists and socialists were responsible for creating the Social Security Administration-while also tough dealing with many if not most friends and all my neighbors; as also someone in many ways significantly advantaged, compared to them.

Now residing in the largest apartment ghetto in town, at the very complex with the most notorious reputation-chosen with my typical naivete; where I've been since early in '08, moving-which took six months and eight round trips-from Eureka, CA with the little Festiva amazingly serviceful-better than a half ton Asian pickup...with Festiva Motor Sport racing/lowering springs & futon frame, roof rack...that rack's, unfortunately not in any of my pics.

Profoundly offensive, just to see that sight; for many stripes and varieties of folks-particularly as a wealthy local mason Colin Ott also a right wing, reactionary player in the local illicit cannabis economy of Humboldt county; did a hostile, misogynous take over February of '07 of my Eureka apartment-built in the 1880s as little carriage house, stables and hay barn to service an adjacent little brewery: Both long since, made into a pair of little two story, two unit apartments-owned since 1951 by the people I'd rented from in October of '99.

Involving the divorce of the woman I'd rented from, who'd taken over from her mother, who rented to me initially-as well as the spousal abuse of the new owner's wife. I'd never seen men, actively married to women they'd chosen for their gullibility and/or wealth; nor particularly as those women, came to some pretty rude awakenings.

All my women friends of significance, competent nearly beyond belief; as musicians, and/or professional sex-workers...or those allied with the latter, or both.

As I was moving, I even got into one impromptu conversation with someone, feasibly even lurking for the opportunity; Charles Barnum with his beat Ford work truck, third largest land owner of Humboldt county, scion of a wealthy logger as was my father, himself a tree farmer-mentioning amongst other things having Ronald Reagan at the family home, when a twelve year old-for some sort of political fundraiser...who'd told me to my face; the reason I was moving, was due to territoriality over women.

I'd been trying on some cheap sunglasses, at a rack in a local dollar store along Broadway Avenue also US 101, part of Eureka's heavily trafficked main drag; when we'd got into an impromptu conversation as strangers, continued behind the tailgate of his pickup parked next to the Festiva. I even got his pob address; who'd ask I send him literature about the Communist Party USA, I'm an ad hoc organizer for-having distributed 10,000 copies of the Peoples Weekly World all during '03 & '04 in Eureka, Arcata & McKinleyville, CA; a hundred a week.

post script: take a look at the "before & after" pics of my Eureka apartment; the new owner doing a fake renovation of the place the last eleven months I was there, who'd promised I could continue residing there once they'd finished-obviously by the end a lie, so he could continue to bilk me for rent until they finally couldn't work around me. A ten percent owner though was his new twenty-two year old step son, whose Mom an attractive woman initially, I'd previously noticed around town; told me of him he was a clean-cut rastafarian, the mason ninety percent owner complained of-obviously irked at having to work side by side on the place with someone he'd not been able to boss, also a little clumsy.

He'd hired a neoNazi carpenter recently released from prison, off the street with a "work wanted" sign, who'd done time for illegal transportation of commercial illicit cannabis; who'd mentioned they planned to demolish both apartments in about ten years, to construct a single family dwelling on the same property. Humboldt county is incredibly short on available housing for all income levels; so they'd be destroying some of the really nice when purchased at least, low-income units...whose phony renovation grossly degraded the once wonderful charm and beauty, of the place I'd lived in.

Other than to harass me, the renovation basically fake evidence of employment; during parole probation. Which considering, was I'm told a good thing; while the neoNazi stuff remains in my imagination, perhaps prison oriented abuse & indoctrination. Both owner & carpenter, frequently high; smoking a powerful ganja by product made by processing the left over leaves, after harvesting the salable buds...a gooey gelatinous though sticky, clear substance, like clear Karo syrup only a lot thicker-the consistency of epoxy cement, as that's hardening.

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[fastivaca]

Hehe. It's at 57,000 directories and 12,000 files and still going. Probably giving up. I'd have to dig through all that to make something out of it.

Just go to https://web.archive.org/web/20040226034645/http://www.festivamotorsport.com/ and you can see just about everything as it was back in 2004.

Awesome... thanks for sharing this link!

[fastivaca]

... Roger himself is looking to buy the GTX DOHC mounting bracket that he used to sell.

I wondered if Roger was still around and what happened to his project cars. Does he still have any Festivas?

[sketchman]

Awesome... thanks for sharing this link!

No prob. I'm working on something else to share hopefully soon. I did give up on the mirroring the site thing. But, well, I'll keep the details to myself till I know I can get it done.