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  • #16
    yeah, that makes a big difference. My toyota pickup (which generally get decent mileage for a truck anyway)was idling at about 3000 rpm b/c of a missing linkage and I was getting terrible mileage 'til I found a replacement. Yeah, I wasn't jazzed at reading that the automatics are 3 speeds...

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    • #17
      Yeah, this is definitely not a flat area, lots of valleys and big ridges.

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      • #18
        was planning on switching to something bigger than 12s anyways, because they've gotten rather expensive.

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        • #19
          Thanks for that tidbit, that does make a difference, I was wondering about that. Considered a carbed one in my area a few months ago but they can be wonky, unlike the older more straightforward carbs. Ideally, would like to just find another '91 manual so parts are compatible with the parts car I'm driving. I think after all this input, it's clear I should stop wavering and stick to my guns, thanks guys!

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          • #20
            Ha! when I start considering aluminum rims for such an already small and light car.... I'll be at a whole new level. I don't deliver pizzas, I mainly use the car for driving in the country or long trips. Granted I don't go over 55-60 generally, I do like to be able to zip up those hills if there's not a passing lane for everybuddy to pass me by, and this car sounds like that would be a struggle.

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            • #21
              Regarding low-speed aero, when I was testing my 1.3L 5-speed EFI Festy, I got 58.0 mpg at 55 mph, and 62.5 mpg at 45 mph; both tests in 5th gear. So 10 mpg slower only showed a 4.5 mpg difference. Even slower would provide even less of an aero difference. Of course, the better mpg at 45 mph was also due to lower rpm, so it wasn't even purely the lower aero resistance that contributed to the 4.5 mpg gain. IMO 55 mph is a pretty good sweet spot for mileage vs. getting somewhere in a reasonable time (unless you're driving cross-country and on a schedule). 60 is more socially acceptable on the hwy, so that's what I drive generally, except for road trips.
              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gracecardriver View Post
                Ha! when I start considering aluminum rims for such an already small and light car.... I'll be at a whole new level. I don't deliver pizzas, I mainly use the car for driving in the country or long trips. Granted I don't go over 55-60 generally, I do like to be able to zip up those hills if there's not a passing lane for everybuddy to pass me by, and this car sounds like that would be a struggle.
                If you're doing a lot of long trips and such I would hold out for a 5 speed. Also bigger tires will make the auto more sluggish up hills.
                91GL BP/F3A with boost
                13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                • #23
                  I do 65 at about 4500-5000 RPM up hills in 2nd in my festiva auto in 3rd I do about 3000 RPM at 65
                  Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

                  Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

                  Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
                  it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

                  Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

                  TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
                  bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

                  '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

                  SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

                  R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

                  R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


                  R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

                  R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

                  R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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                  • #24
                    What size tire? Stock tires will run you about 55 mph at 3000 rpm.
                    91GL BP/F3A with boost
                    13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bhazard View Post
                      What size tire? Stock tires will run you about 55 mph at 3000 rpm.
                      175/70/13 on aftermarket aluminum rims
                      Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

                      Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

                      Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
                      it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

                      Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

                      TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
                      bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

                      '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

                      SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

                      R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

                      R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


                      R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

                      R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

                      R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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                      • #26
                        as mentioned, a little more power would do wonders. the only reason i've stored and hung onto a pristine GL auto is the vision of plugging the ATX into a BPD. enough power for any hill but not enough to stress the trans. probably the same or better MPG just cruising.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by F3BZ View Post
                          as mentioned, a little more power would do wonders. the only reason i've stored and hung onto a pristine GL auto is the vision of plugging the ATX into a BPD. enough power for any hill but not enough to stress the trans. probably the same or better MPG just cruising.
                          I'm working on that. NA BP auto is a lot of fun around town. I've managed high-15 second quarter miles. Hopefully this year it will end up at least as quick as my old BP turbo car.
                          91GL BP/F3A with boost
                          13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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