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  • FINALLY brought home the "Mystery Fire" car - ALARMED

    Back at the beginning of March, I learned of a 1993 Festiva L that had been on fire. Some of you saw it on Craigslist. It was supposedly towed backward, and maybe left in 1st gear for about 7 miles down the highway. At the exit, driver noticed smoke from under hood. A week later sellers mechanic called him to ask if the car was still going to be dropped off! Tracked down the towing guy who confessed that he still had the car and it had been damaged. He had no insurance and had hoped to fix it himself. O_o Once back home, the seller said when he tried to start it, it went "click". I figured the engine had probably seized from turning backwards at high rpm with no oil.

    This whole thing has turned into a very long process, but I finally did a barter deal and brought it home yesterday, from right here in my own neighborhood. Car has 4 brand new tires mounted and two more in the trunk never mounted, so I am already ahead financially. Its white in color, a rural car with almost no corrosion issues and 165,000 miles. I have an 88' with low mile (100K) engine but the body is laden with Chicago rust, some suspension issues bla bla bla. May transfer that engine to this nice newer body.

    The fire looks to me like maybe a torpedo heater was aimed at the grill. The grill was 95% gone and the plastic air horn just behind radiator and above manifold heat shield was burned from the front back, leaving the edges intact. All of its connecting hoses were unharmed. No other grease, rubber, plastic ... nothing else in the engine bay appears to have suffered from heat. Still very strange, but be that as it may.

    I hooked the battery charger to the dead battery last night and today went out to see what would happen. Turned the key and it did not go click. It actually started cranking like there were no issues!!! But it never tried to fire up. I'm sure there will be more drama, but that will be for a later post.

    The question I have for you all at this point is about a possible alarm/switch issue. When I put the key in ignition and turn to 1st notch, a small "alarm" noise is heard. The alarm is always present until the key is completely removed. When the key is removed, there is an audible click from inside the ignition switch much like that of an electrical switch. Inserting and removing the key does not cause this "switch click", it only happens after turning the ignition on, hearing the "alarm" and removing the key.

    Upon climbing under the dash, the "alarm" noise seems to be coming from back behind the dash speaker panel. When I jiggle the wire harness attached to the clutch start switch, the alarm noise varies in tone! It was very hot in the car today so I didn't dig any deeper which would require laying on my back under the dash.

    Anyone have an idea what this alarm noise could be? Could it be related to the clutch switch and shutting off the circuit that allows the engine to run?
    Last edited by unclepossum; 07-08-2016, 07:24 PM.
    Never buy a car you can't push!
    1988 Silver / 1989 Black / 1992 white / 1993 white

  • #2
    Do you have the door open when you hear the alarm?

    If so, then there's your answer.

    My '93 has an alarm/buzzer that sounds when the key is in the ignition and either door is open.

    Hope this helps.

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    • #3
      ^ Yep . Its always the first thing to go on my festivas. I hate that dang buzzer.

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      • #4
        Hmmmmm ... awkward! That was the issue sort of. THANK YOU !!!!

        I tried shutting the door. Still got the alarm.
        THEN I also buckled the seat belts (upper and lower) with door closed. No alarm.
        Thanks for the idea.

        I have three other Festi's, an 88, 89 and 92. None of them have any alarms; so I was taken by surprise. Never heard one before.

        The 92 probably should have the alarm, but the upper seat belt motor does not work, so previous owner probably disconnected the buzzer.
        Last edited by unclepossum; 07-10-2016, 10:26 AM.
        Never buy a car you can't push!
        1988 Silver / 1989 Black / 1992 white / 1993 white

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        • #5
          Where at in missouri are you? I am in Corning Ar and wondering if you kmew of any good places to get used parts.

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          • #6
            yup the door buzzer will ring if the upper belt is too far retracted down into the spool.... the lower belt won't cause the door buzzer to go off if your wearing it or not
            Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

            Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

            Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
            it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

            Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

            TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
            bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

            '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

            SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

            R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

            R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


            R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

            R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

            R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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            • #7
              Hi ... sorry for the slow response .... I'm near Sainte Genevieve, MO. This is on I-55 about an hour North of Cape Girardeau.

              I have a couple junk yards within driving range, but their Festivas are getting pretty picked through.
              Keep checking Craigslist in your area.
              Ebay is always a good bet. Sometimes people post cars that are being stripped for parts
              If you do a search on eBay, you can also click on the link "SAVE THIS SEARCH". Then, anytime that item (car, part, wheel etc) shows up on eBay, you will get an email alerting you.

              That way you don't have to remember to do manual searches and won't miss any opportunities.
              Never buy a car you can't push!
              1988 Silver / 1989 Black / 1992 white / 1993 white

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