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  • #16
    Originally posted by FB71
    Lead-Acid battery efficiency goes DOWN below a minimum threshold and above a maximum! Extreme low temps slow, and can even stop, the electrolytic reaction between Pb and SO4 (or is it SO2, I can't remember right now...)
    H2SO4?

    Originally posted by FB71
    However.... Commercial ice temperature is usually only slightly below 32F, often in the 26F-28F range. That's not low enough to adversly effect a new lead-acid battery. Temps below -10 are where things get hairy.
    Whats the freezing point/melting point of battery acid....that the hairy point.

    Originally posted by FB71
    Oh, and stay away from DieHards.... They're made by JCI (Johnson Controls Inc), and really aren't that great, based on my personal experience.
    And Mine Too!!!

    Originally posted by SimonTuffGuy
    At any rate... We probably sat for somewhere between 10-20 minutes with the car off and the heater on. Would've that drained the battery enough to the point where it could be blowing these fuses until it's charged back to a 12.20? What if I stick my trickle charger on the red top? Will I be able to charge it enough to get back to that?
    It's worth a try!
    Joe Lutz

    The SKATE ..... 1992L 5spd
    The Greatest Purchase I Ever Made

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    • #17
      I'll try charging the thing a bit when I'm home tomorrow to see if that helps. Seems pretty dumn that simply having a slightly drained batter would be blowing the fuses when it's charging. FWIW, I yanked the heater out since it'll soon be warm enough not to need it.

      Now that I think about it though, I believe when it happened before (on my way home from NY), my car was sitting with the little heater running as well. I got stopped because the car in front of me lost control and slammed into the front of a semi truck and I stopped to see what I could do...

      I'll report back tomorrow once I try that.
      Simon - pimptiva.com

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      • #18
        This should answer the freezing point of a battery!
        As one would expect it depends on it specific gravity, which in turn is a measure of its concentration and ultimately its state of charge.
        Check page 2 of the link below:

        '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
        '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
        '92 Aqua parts Car
        '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
        '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

        "Your God of repentance will not save you.
        Your holy ghost will not save you.
        Your God plutonium will not save you.
        In fact...
        ...You will not be saved!"

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        • #19
          My 1991 Festy did the same thing. It kept blowing the main fuse. I never did figure out what was causing it so what I did was instead of replacing and blowing the fuse, I bridged the two blades with a short piece of very thick wire. Possibly 10 guage, with no fuse. That was three years ago and I drive it to work every day. By no means am I telling you to try this but it works for me.
          1991 Ford Festiva
          The BEST CAR I have EVER owned!!!
          With the current gas prices, EVERYONE wants a FESTIVA!!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Pu241
            This should answer the freezing point of a battery!
            As one would expect it depends on it specific gravity, which in turn is a measure of its concentration and ultimately its state of charge.
            Check page 2 of the link below:

            http://www.unionbattery.com/images/2.6.pdf
            Nice post....great graph1
            Always a great bonus question for any test....convert -40°F to °C.
            Joe Lutz

            The SKATE ..... 1992L 5spd
            The Greatest Purchase I Ever Made

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            • #21
              cheetah - I was thinking of doing that exact same thing. But, I'm thinking that it COULD cause a potential burn hazzard. I'd hate to see Casper go up in flames over something as stupid as a fuse.

              I'm going to try charging the battery up tomorrow to see if that is what's causing the problem. If I can't find anything else, I'll bridge the connection and look for sparks.
              Simon - pimptiva.com

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              • #22
                Originally posted by cheetah85
                My 1991 Festy did the same thing. It kept blowing the main fuse. I never did figure out what was causing it so what I did was instead of replacing and blowing the fuse, I bridged the two blades with a short piece of very thick wire. Possibly 10 guage, with no fuse. That was three years ago and I drive it to work every day. By no means am I telling you to try this but it works for me.
                i did something similar, i just connected the 2 wires together just under the fuse box, and that was 4 years ago and my car hasn't burnt yet :lol:

                1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
                1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
                2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

                1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

                If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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                • #23
                  Do you have another battery you could put in temporarily? Just to test this out?
                  Brian
                  http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2274977



                  93 GL modyfied!!!
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cheetah85
                    My 1991 Festy did the same thing. It kept blowing the main fuse. I never did figure out what was causing it so what I did was instead of replacing and blowing the fuse, I bridged the two blades with a short piece of very thick wire. Possibly 10 guage, with no fuse. That was three years ago and I drive it to work every day. By no means am I telling you to try this but it works for me.
                    Wow, just seems scary to me, I would try a larger fuse if this works, although, last october, I saw a faulty wiring job on the rotating lights on the tow truck I was driving almost set the cab on fire, fused with just a 20 amp, never blew, but burned every wire in the cluster for about 5 feet!
                    Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
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                    • #25
                      I have the battery from my Jeep that I could transfer over to see if that solves the problem. I'm going to try my charger first to see if that'll help it at all. I got it for Christmas last year and I haven't really used it yet, so this will be a good test for it.

                      As for the wire connection vs. fuse, I had a problem like that in my first car I had. I wired in some black lights and such and crossed some wires somewhere... I went to turn them on and just started melting the wires. No fuse blew or anything.
                      Simon - pimptiva.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jglutz
                        [Always a great bonus question for any test....convert -40°F to °C.
                        :lol:
                        Yeah, one of those things you pickup over time along with the usual points of reference.

                        -40°C = -40°F
                        0°C = 32°F
                        100°C = 212°F
                        '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                        '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                        '92 Aqua parts Car
                        '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                        '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                        "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                        Your holy ghost will not save you.
                        Your God plutonium will not save you.
                        In fact...
                        ...You will not be saved!"

                        Prince of Darkness -1987

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                        • #27
                          Well... I'm going to try putting the Jeep battery in the car I guess. The charger isn't going to put out enough juice to get it back into the 12+ range.

                          We'll see how that goes.
                          Simon - pimptiva.com

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                          • #28
                            [quote="SimonTuffGuy"][I wired in some black lights quote]
                            Now you are sure showing your age.....LOL
                            96 Ford F-150 XLT
                            93 Festiva L (Modified)
                            92 Festiva L
                            68 Mustang GT 428cj

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                            • #29
                              Haha... No, I'm just showing how much of a ricer I was when I was 16... :lol:
                              Simon - pimptiva.com

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                              • #30
                                sounds like a weak batt to me good luck

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