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    OK folks. A lot of searching of the archives leads me to think there may be a fusible link issue with this Festy. A little background-

    I am going to look at this Festiva later today. According to the seller it has an electrical gremlin that she's poured a fair amount of cash into and is now giving up. I have no history or knowledge of the car other than the ad, and what I am going to post below. It's a 92. If you guys would read the seller's description and toss out any guesses, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Oh, and this is in St. Louis, MO. Let me know what you think is fair market for it, as-is. Thanks!

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    new stuff:
    passenger side door window replaced in 2005 from a salvage
    I don't still have the receipts, but I also had some fuse work and muffler work in 2005
    four new tires- 07/02/06 (mil 96920) from Firestone
    alignment & balance of tires- 7/2/06
    all work and parts from Firestone
    battery replacement- 11/17/06 (mil 97775)
    fuel system tune up- 11/17/06
    battery & electrical system check- 11/17/06
    spark plug replacement- 11/17/06
    air filter- 11/17/06
    Alternator and belts- replaced 11/28/06 (mil. 97897)
    catalytic converter- replaced 01/08/07 (mil 98954)
    front & rear brakes (calipers, drums, system flush, rotors, wheel bearings & seals)- 1/08/07

    So you can kind of see where I tried a couple of things but nothing kept it running and I have to drive an hour or more a day to work. So i had to either spend more money on an old car that the mechanics couldn't figure out what was wrong with it or get something newer and reliable. I bought a new car and this one has been gathering dust. Why I waited so long is personal and doesn't really matter- it has been in a nice, cozy spot on our property. I paid taxes on it, and still claim the car.
    Here is what happened when it started "not working". I was coming home one day, and at a stop sign (luckily, only a block or two from my house) the car died and would not re-start. Not even a click or a whirr, it was DEAD DEAD. Had it towed and replaced the battery and spark plugs and had the electrical system checked. It worked for about another week and then the same thing. Redid the alternator and that kept it up for about a month and a half then it just would not stay "on". No warning, just as you were at a red light or a stop sign it would go completely dead. No stutters or shimmies and then when the key was tried, no clicks or whirrs. After all the parts had been re-checked and all the new stuff put on it and still these problems, I couldn't trust it anymore. I am not a car girl (and my roommate knows even less about them), I can only assume that maybe there is some frayed wire or disconnected end somewhere. These cars are known for being awesome little go-gos and I know that they have their fans that love to rebuild them. When I was driving it, I was getting a good 35-38 mpg (that's city and highway combined/averaged), so I kind of refuse to just junk it.
    I also have the Haynes manual and the glovebox manual it came with.
    Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

  • #2
    Could be, I would be looking for a shorted ground wire, bad ground connections, and such as well.errrr, there is something I cannot think of, a little fuzzy today
    Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
    Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
    "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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    • #3
      The only thing not mentioned is the clutch. And I don't mean that for troubleshooting the electrical issue. I just wonder if a clutch can last 100k and if so, it must be in sad shape, right? Well, I'm going to go look at it in an hour or so, will report back when I return.
      Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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      • #4
        i live in st.louis

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        • #5
          Originally posted by miami man
          i live in st.louis
          Well hello neighbor. What do you think the market should bear for that Festiva? I copied the VIN while I was there. The car is an "L" with the usual power nothing. It seemed to look fine but it wouldn't start per the above statement. I wasn't going to try to diagnose it in front of her because, well, if I happen to fix it she'll probably hike the price... I didn't see any VIN decode references, are they around?
          Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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          • #6
            My guess - ignition control module. Get it tested for free at some parts stores. Symptom of age is intermittent stalling and finally failure to run at all. Replacement part in Canada about $150.
            Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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            • #7
              Noob question... Will the store's test definitively answer if it's defective? As in, could it possibly act OK for the test but still be bad? Noob question 2... Where is it located on the little fella?
              Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MeeMo
                The only thing not mentioned is the clutch. And I don't mean that for troubleshooting the electrical issue. I just wonder if a clutch can last 100k and if so, it must be in sad shape, right? Well, I'm going to go look at it in an hour or so, will report back when I return.
                I think it all depends on how you drive, I must have over 350k on mine now......
                Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
                Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
                "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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                • #9
                  Wow, well then that's encouraging. I couldn't test it with the car not starting so that will be a wildcard for now. But it's good to know they can last like that.
                  Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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                  • #10
                    You can always get a control mod from a JY....much cheaper and they are on ebay for about 60 I think.
                    "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
                    89L Silver EFI auto
                    91GL Green Auto DD
                    There ain't no rest for the wicked
                    until we close our eyes for good.
                    I will sleep when I die!
                    I'm a little hunk of tin, nobody knows what shape I'm in. I've got four wheels and a running board, I'm not a Chevy, I'M A FORD!

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                    • #11
                      Why not check the starter itself it may just need a little cleaning or check the carbon brass inside the starter perhaps its already worn. I have a 1994 kia pride I stalled once and couldn't start it anymore. I tried to jump start the starter but nothing happened until we opened it.
                      Last edited by mykecmf; 04-17-2008, 12:33 AM.
                      "Optimus Pride"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mykecmf View Post
                        Why not check the starter itself it may just need a little cleaning or check the carbon brass inside the starter perhaps its already worn. I have a 1994 kia pride I stalled once and couldn't start it anymore. I tried to jump start the starter but nothing happened until we opened it.
                        I'll check everything before I replace anything- once I get it home. I still need to actually get the car and tow it home. Thanks for that suggestion.
                        Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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                        • #13
                          It's important to know more detail on how it dies.

                          If it dies all of a sudden...electrical related
                          If there is a slight hesitation before it dies....fuel related
                          This is really important.

                          Check out the fuel pump safety circuit that runs thru the VAF....including the fuel pump relay and associated circuit....also check for a bad fuel shut-off switch

                          I would spent the time testing before changing parts....changing parts could add up without results.
                          Joe Lutz

                          The SKATE ..... 1992L 5spd
                          The Greatest Purchase I Ever Made

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jglutz View Post
                            It's important to know more detail on how it dies.

                            If it dies all of a sudden...electrical related
                            If there is a slight hesitation before it dies....fuel related
                            This is really important.

                            Check out the fuel pump safety circuit that runs thru the VAF....including the fuel pump relay and associated circuit....also check for a bad fuel shut-off switch

                            I would spent the time testing before changing parts....changing parts could add up without results.
                            Exactly. The PO tried shotgunning and it got expensive and frustrating enough for her to abandon the car altogether and get something else. So I will diagnose then replace, trust me. It sounds electrical as she said it just flat quit running and subsequently doesn't even so much as "click or whirr" after that.
                            Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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                            • #15
                              Update... (I know, you're all riveted to this thread )

                              I think I've decided to buy the car so I hope to be picking it up and starting to actually work on it soon.

                              So again, what do you think it's worth as it sits based on the first post? Not KBB or NADA, actual worth...
                              Remember "I" before "E", except as in Budweiser.

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