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    I had a visitor from down south today. Mark Mich, the dude with the pickup Festiva at the St. Louis Meet stopped by to pick up his new hood. Should have taken a pic of his '89 LX efi, but wasn't thinking.

    Anywho, we parked in my alley and I always throw on my emergency flashers just to be safe. We pulled the hood out of the shed and went in to drink a soda pop. When we decided to leave, I'm guessing 15 or 20 minutes later, my battery was low enough that it wouldn't turn Levistiva over. Mark jumped me and I headed to the McAutopartsStore to get new battery cables because Levistiva has universal ends and I wanted new.

    While at the store, I changed my mind and bought a couple tools instead, and proceeded back to the Festiva Funny Factory. Grabbed the camera and decided to do a Battery Maintenance 101 for Supermodels Shoot, with me as the Supermodel!

    Here's a few things I did and observed.

    The scene of the grime!

    Starting with 12.91 volts


    Losing 5.51 volts through the grime on the battery case.


    My new tools.



    Results if you touch the wrench between the pos and the neg posts of the battery. Wakes ya right up!


    Excellent results with the little puller. Can't believe I haven't gotten one sooner.


    Cool reaction pic of baking soda/water mix to neutralize gunk on the outside of the battery case. Read online, 1 tablespoon baking soda to 1 pint of water. Not sure I was that exact. I put a bunch of baking soda in a plastic gallon milkjug, filled it half way up and shook the shnot outta it!


    Poured the mix on everything including the wire end.


    There are single drain holes in the cavities of the battery box. One was plugged and filled with mixture, so I just layed parts in the mix to clean. I cleaned the hole out later to drain.


    These next 3 pics show before, during, and after using the new tool. Notice the shine on the inside of the cable end. That is what you want everything that makes connection to look like.




    You can see the difference between claen and uncleaned in this pic. Wire brush works great for this.


    Wiped down the battery and used the tool to clean posts.


    You can see the shine difference between the cleaned post and uncleaned post.


    A couple shots that show cleaning the battery case helps prevent losing volts through the battery case.



    Only other thing I did was to fill a couple of the cells that were low with water. used a bottle of spring water. Probably should have used distilled. Don't think you are suppose to use tap water, though I would imagine tap water would be fine if you had the container of water sitting out for a few days, uncovered, allowing the chlorine to evaporate.

    I'm not telling anybody to do this, I'm just telling you what I did. I don't want to be responsible if something gets screwed up.
    Last edited by Levitan; 11-29-2008, 11:02 PM. Reason: Grammatical/spelling corrections
    ENFORCER - Midwest Festiva Inc., Iowa

    #1 '90 Sport to modified Lx - RollazX
    #2 .....Cheesehead
    #3 '91 White - Donor Car
    #4 .....Montana Project
    SOLD----Levistiva for $1500
    Bought her back for $450
    Now that's darn near priceless!!

  • #2
    Thats nuts. I would have NEVER imagined that a battery would be shorting thru junk built up on it. Nice work!
    89SX funtop! Fully loaded!
    RIP 90LX

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    • #3
      Good point to bring up as the cold weather sets in.
      Brian
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2274977



      93 GL modyfied!!!
      :fish:

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      • #4
        THANK YOU DAN!!!!!! This is EXACTLY one of the topics I cover in my Basic Electrical classes, AUTO 131 and 136. You couldn't have illustrated it any better!
        Jim DeAngelis

        kittens give Morbo gas!!



        Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
        Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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        • #5
          I'll tell you why your getting a voltage drop thorugh the grime on top......it's a Neverstart from wal-mart.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by festivaWES View Post
            I'll tell you why your getting a voltage drop thorugh the grime on top......it's a Neverstart from wal-mart.
            Good point... Un-dboutally made in china, The lead based paint its probabally painted with is most likeley conducting electricity. :confused2:
            89SX funtop! Fully loaded!
            RIP 90LX

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            • #7
              I had to buy my anual battery for the season, I really need a battery cut off switch bad for storrage. I need a rear mounted switch so that i can pop my hatch to access my battery. Every year when i store it i have a little paracidic draw and usally by spring its dead

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              • #8
                Dont you need to test your amps not your volts ???? You can have 12 volts and still not have enough amps to start the car ???? Seems like that happened to me one time when a battery had a dead cell. I tested for volts which showed fine so I eliminated the battery as the problem. Later found that it only had about 100 CCA.
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                The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

                Link to my festiva pictures below
                https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
                Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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                • #9
                  yes, but Dan's point is that a dirty battery can be a parasitic load on the battery itself. His check does not indicate battery capacitance, only open circuit voltage and voltage leak across the top. Excessive parasitic load constantly charge-cycles the battery, which will kill it much sooner than one that maintains a level charge.
                  Jim DeAngelis

                  kittens give Morbo gas!!



                  Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
                  Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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                  • #10
                    I just did the same thing on my Jeep. I had to pull the battery to install my washer bottle relocation bracket (snorkel install) and decided it needed a good cleaning.

                    Nice write-up.
                    Simon - pimptiva.com

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                    • #11
                      Sorry I missed you point Dan. Ive never had a dirty battery. :p:p
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                      The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

                      Link to my festiva pictures below
                      https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
                      Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the props Jim! Honestly, I was thinking you would respond and feared that you might say I did it wrong. I needed that, thanks!

                        But I will bite on the amps question that Fresh brought up. I'm sure I can take the battery to the local McAutoParts store and they could check the amps. What I would like to know, Jim, is if they can be checked "back alley" style as my twin brother
                        elcamino1 and I call it? Possibly using the meter in the photos? If so, what setting should it be set on?

                        One more thing, Jim. Was I correct on the water comments I made at the end of the post?
                        ENFORCER - Midwest Festiva Inc., Iowa

                        #1 '90 Sport to modified Lx - RollazX
                        #2 .....Cheesehead
                        #3 '91 White - Donor Car
                        #4 .....Montana Project
                        SOLD----Levistiva for $1500
                        Bought her back for $450
                        Now that's darn near priceless!!

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                        • #13
                          Not with that meter... To measure amps you need a load on the battery. You can get cheep testers that are meant to do this though. I've seen them as cheep as $30 up here. (I'm sure cheeper down there, harbor freight, maybe?)


                          edit
                          To add, That tester you have may have an amps setting, but to use it you would have to place it in series with the circuit. (IE remove POS cable and put the tester in-between) Then for the tester to display anything you would have to put a load on the battery (IE turn over the starter) BUT the reading it would display would only be the Amp draw of your starter (NOT the available amps the battery has to offer) BUT!!! Do not do this because I guarantee that tester you have there is not rated for the amps your starter will pull. I'd guess its good for no more than 10 amps. (If it dose have an amperage setting it will say on the tester what it is rated for)
                          Last edited by stefan; 11-30-2008, 12:42 AM.
                          89SX funtop! Fully loaded!
                          RIP 90LX

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                          • #14
                            Gotchya Stephan. I can take it to a store to check. I have several that need checked.
                            ENFORCER - Midwest Festiva Inc., Iowa

                            #1 '90 Sport to modified Lx - RollazX
                            #2 .....Cheesehead
                            #3 '91 White - Donor Car
                            #4 .....Montana Project
                            SOLD----Levistiva for $1500
                            Bought her back for $450
                            Now that's darn near priceless!!

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                            • #15
                              Something like this

                              89SX funtop! Fully loaded!
                              RIP 90LX

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