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    When I got this Festy, I had to replace the pass rear bearing. That was about 6-8 months ago.

    Now, I'm hearing a scraping noise that comes and goes that I believe is the same one. I ALSO started hearing a fairly loud humming from I think the DRIVERS rear bearing.....



    Do y'all have problems with your festy eating rear bearings? I know they're cheap and easy to replace, but it's gonna be pretty annoying if this keeps up.
    Buck.
    -1993 Ford Festiva GL, ~200k, B6, Aspire rear, Rio front, 5-speed. '87 Prelude alloys. Happy to be back on the route!!!
    -1999 Toyota Sienna XLE, 346,000
    -1996 Chevrolet K1500 Z71, 350 V8, 198k, hauler

  • #2
    I've had mine for 3 years now. It's eaten 3 sets and 2 spindles so far.

    I'm hoping an Aspire swap cures this problem.
    Festiva: Because even my dog can build a Honda.
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    '81 Mustang. Inline 6, Automatic.
    '95 Eagle Summit Wagon. 4G64 Powered.

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    • #3
      Probably doesn't help that I drive no less than 30 very uneven, pitching, buckling, sloping, and sagging miles of street on my route every morning then, eh? Not to mention gravel.

      There's multiple instances every morning where one side is 1+ foot lower or higher than the other, while moving and turning, that's gotta put some funky stress on them I imagine.......
      Buck.
      -1993 Ford Festiva GL, ~200k, B6, Aspire rear, Rio front, 5-speed. '87 Prelude alloys. Happy to be back on the route!!!
      -1999 Toyota Sienna XLE, 346,000
      -1996 Chevrolet K1500 Z71, 350 V8, 198k, hauler

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      • #4
        I kill mine by catching potholes while cornering.
        Festiva: Because even my dog can build a Honda.
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        '90 L. B8ME/Kia Rio 5 speed. Rio/Aspire suspension swap. :-D
        '81 Mustang. Inline 6, Automatic.
        '95 Eagle Summit Wagon. 4G64 Powered.

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        • #5
          Are you using a good quality bearing like Timken or the cheapies?
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          • #6
            I wanna say it was Timken.... But I can't remember for sure. I'll be sure to get a quality one this time around.

            One I got was like $6
            Buck.
            -1993 Ford Festiva GL, ~200k, B6, Aspire rear, Rio front, 5-speed. '87 Prelude alloys. Happy to be back on the route!!!
            -1999 Toyota Sienna XLE, 346,000
            -1996 Chevrolet K1500 Z71, 350 V8, 198k, hauler

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            • #7
              Could also be insufficient grease, or tightening the bearing down too hard. I've seen both, and on one Festy there was no grease seal installed!
              Last edited by TominMO; 07-03-2011, 06:16 AM.
              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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              • #8
                There are really only a small handful of bearing mfgs in the world, and generally, when a breading fails prematurely, itsa function of the installation, not the quality of materials.

                I'm not judging you, because I have no idea how you install bearings, but they are not supposed to be torqued AT ALL. Doing so preloads the bearing assemblies and can lead to premature failure because there isn't enough grease in the carrier.

                Races should be changed with the bearings, even if they look ok. You wouldn't be changing the bearings if something wasn't worn out, so why would you leave the part that it was wearing against?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JPT View Post
                  I've had mine for 3 years now. It's eaten 3 sets and 2 spindles so far.

                  I'm hoping an Aspire swap cures this problem.
                  BTW, the Aspire uses the same bearings front and rear as the Festiva. The only advantage to the Aspire swap, bearing-wise, is that on Aspires (and later Festys) you have the castle-nut type cover for the rear nut, and a cotter pin. This lets you set the bearing properly for no drag, and it won't change.

                  Eating spindles and bearings is all about improper assembly; insufficient grease and/or torquing the bearing down. When the nut is put on, there is a sweet spot where there is no wheel wobble, but also no drag. That's what you're aiming for. Since I don't have the castle nut/cotter pin setup, when I put the nut on, besides crimping it on I also use blue (removable) Loctite on it and let it cure overnight. Then I check monthly that there is no drag or wobble.
                  Last edited by TominMO; 07-03-2011, 07:06 AM.
                  90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                  09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                  You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                  Disaster preparedness

                  Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                  Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 200KGPGTP View Post
                    I wanna say it was Timken.... But I can't remember for sure. I'll be sure to get a quality one this time around.

                    One I got was like $6
                    See if there is a Standard Bearing store in your area they will have Timken bearings, better take some cash with ya, they are not $6. Also next time you buy grease look for a product that has Molly in it. With Molly it is just a little better product. Good luck
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                    • #11
                      The best way I know to pack a bearing is to put a blob of grease in the palm of your hand and squish the bearing into it sideways until grease oozes out the other side. Also +1 on replacing the race and proper nut tightness. A bad seal can let in water and ruin 'em too. I've never had one go bad once I install it myself.

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                      • #12
                        I vacuum bag bearings to pack them. Much cleaner lol.

                        Generally, like when I just did the bearings on my Golf, I put the nuts as tight as I can get them BY FINGERS, drive around the block, then tighten them while someone spins the wheel, then when the wheel stop spinning, back them off about 1/4 turn.

                        Go back in a couple weeks when you check/adjust your tire pressure (you DO, don't you?) And check for wobble.
                        Last edited by Christ; 07-03-2011, 09:43 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TominMO View Post
                          BTW, the Aspire uses the same bearings front and rear as the Festiva. The only advantage to the Aspire swap, bearing-wise, is that on Aspires (and later Festys) you have the castle-nut type cover for the rear nut, and a cotter pin. This lets you set the bearing properly for no drag, and it won't change.
                          I believe the problem with my car is that the rear axle seems to be ever so slightly bent. It looks like the previous owner slid sideways into a curb. I think my rear bearings are always side-loaded. I've done plenty of bearings in my time and never have seen a car eat bearings like this one.

                          The fact that the Aspire takes the same bearings is a good thing for me. I already have a set I bought for back up. :smile:

                          ...and I never use anything but Timken.
                          Festiva: Because even my dog can build a Honda.
                          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          '90 L. B8ME/Kia Rio 5 speed. Rio/Aspire suspension swap. :-D
                          '81 Mustang. Inline 6, Automatic.
                          '95 Eagle Summit Wagon. 4G64 Powered.

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                          • #14
                            22 yrs on the same rear bearings and seals, 114k km, about 66k miles. Only repacked them once and then only the outers because I didn't know wheels had two set of bearings in them. Just repacked them for the second time in April, both inners and outers this time. El cheapo Cdn Tire bearing grease.
                            Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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                            • #15
                              .... Here's a suggestion: POST #39 http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...t=31686&page=4
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