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  • Stuck axle help,please.

    I am ready to remove the motor for the B6 swap, and I hit a snag.
    The pass side axle is stuck in the hub.
    I had this all apart last summer. Replaced everything, except the axles. Had no problems removing axles/hub then.

    The driver side axle pushed in, with a push of my thumb, after removing axle nut, earlier today.

    I have beat on the pass side axle with a hammer and a 1 inch aluminum bar, and even gave it a few whacks with my 12 lb sledge! No movement.

    Is there anything I can do to get this axle to move?

    Or I am I to keep beating on the poor thing till its gives up?

    The offending hub:

    Dan




    Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

    Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

    I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

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  • #2
    PB and a good air hammer.... there's no easy way to do it.
    Trees aren't kind to me...

    currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
    94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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    • #3
      Had this same problem and ended up removing the entire hub and axle on an old BMW and being embarrassed by an old mechanic in 10 seconds. Take one sledge and one softer hammer that's still pretty heavy.

      Hold the softer one against the axle stub and whack it with the sledge. I watched the mechanic I mentioned sit the whole mess on the floor, hold it down with one foot, and remove the axle easy as pie. Me and another guy had beat the thing to death for hours still attached to the car and it wouldn't budge.
      Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

      Old Blue- New Tricks
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      • #4
        No air hammer

        I do have the 12 lb sledge, though.

        It does not feel solid enough on the car to really get a good SOLID hit.
        Everything kinda... moves ....when hit and absorbs some of the impact.

        Off the car would provide some soildness, for a jarring impact when set on something solid, like a floor! :p
        Those 'ol mechanics done did it all before us, and know their stuff!

        I was hoping I wouldnt have to remove the hub and axle all at the same time. As my luck goes, the inner side will be stuck too! :eeeeeek:

        Edit: Oreillys has an air hammer for $60. Hmmm....
        Last edited by drddan; 05-05-2012, 07:43 PM.
        Dan




        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

        R.I.P.
        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
        Silver 1988 Festiva L

        My Music!
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        • #5
          For this kind of work you need a big air hammer..
          or a big heavy dead blow. Your sledge with a double
          sided hammer held in place to receive the blow would
          be good. Lower the hoist and put the tire back on, with
          it on the ground it will protect the LCA from punishment.
          Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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          • #6
            Try a 3-prong puller. Screw down tight and then tap bolt with hammer. Impact under pressure is a good way to break things loose. I take it that green stuff is grease?
            Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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            • #7
              ^

              That's what I had to do with one of mine.
              2008 Kia Rio- new beater
              1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
              1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
              1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
              1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
              1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
              1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
              1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



              "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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              • #8
                IF the air Hammer won't work, remember the

                POWER OF THE AIR GUITAR!
                In love with a MadScientist!:thumbright:
                There's a fine line between breathtaking ingenuity and "That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by drddan View Post
                  I am ready to remove the motor for the B6 swap, and I hit a snag.
                  The pass side axle is stuck in the hub.
                  I had this all apart last summer. Replaced everything, except the axles. Had no problems removing axles/hub then.

                  The driver side axle pushed in, with a push of my thumb, after removing axle nut, earlier today.

                  I have beat on the pass side axle with a hammer and a 1 inch aluminum bar, and even gave it a few whacks with my 12 lb sledge! No movement.

                  Is there anything I can do to get this axle to move?

                  Or I am I to keep beating on the poor thing till its gives up?

                  The offending hub:

                  Have you tried putting a large sledge on the back side of the rotor? If you havent try it. Have someone press the slege as hard as they can against it while you hit the axle with an equally heavy hammer.
                  Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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                  • #10
                    X2 with Arty. On blaster soaking for a few hours and a pointed punch in the air chiselwill free the most stubborn cv.
                    Im not driving a Festiva because I'm poor. I drive a Festiva because i want to!

                    Dennis
                    93 L Advancedynamics suspension mod, awaiting B6 swap
                    91 GL B6 sohc, currently in the hands of DAE undergoing top secret work. Soon to be cable G, with stage 3 F1 Kevlar clutch... To be continued
                    93 GL In progress BP/hydro G
                    15 Mitsubishi Mirage daily
                    88 Dakota tow pig

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Movin View Post
                      For this kind of work you need a big air hammer..
                      or a big heavy dead blow. Your sledge with a double
                      sided hammer held in place to receive the blow would
                      be good. Lower the hoist and put the tire back on, with
                      it on the ground it will protect the LCA from punishment.
                      Yes, the hub was just hanging last night, and I was tired. Didnt think about it being not solid, just hanging like that.
                      New attitude and new tools today. (3 lb double sided hammer to beat up with my 12 lb sledge!) :p

                      Originally posted by WmWatt View Post
                      Try a 3-prong puller. Screw down tight and then tap bolt with hammer. Impact under pressure is a good way to break things loose. I take it that green stuff is grease?

                      Good idea too!

                      Yes, is grease. I put grease on hub/axle at install last summer
                      Dan




                      Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                      Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                      I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                      R.I.P.
                      Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                      Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                      Silver 1988 Festiva L

                      My Music!
                      http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                      • #12
                        W...T...H...! :p

                        I went out this morning (half groggy still) jacked up the hub with the floor jack, so it wasnt just hanging there, grabbed my trusty 12 lb sledge, and just to see how solid it felt, gave the axle a very small whack with the sledge...

                        .... The axle just pushed right in!!!! No effort what so ever. Could slide it back and forth with my finger tips.

                        Guess I was either, too tired last night, or it was in a bind from hanging, or my final blow of the night freed it up and I just didnt realize it.
                        ...or all of the above.

                        Anyway, I hope to have an empty engine bay today.
                        Dan




                        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                        R.I.P.
                        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                        Silver 1988 Festiva L

                        My Music!
                        http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                        • #13
                          Last summer? weird it would go solid with grease on shaft

                          when you get it off look at the inside area for a ding or something that the
                          nut would force it through last summer. You might want to dress the dinged
                          spot so that you don't have to find this thread next summer!
                          Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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                          • #14
                            Awesome!
                            Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Movin View Post
                              Last summer? weird it would go solid with grease on shaft

                              when you get it off look at the inside area for a ding or something that the
                              nut would force it through last summer. You might want to dress the dinged
                              spot so that you don't have to find this thread next summer!
                              ^^^ I must type faster than you..lol

                              The first thought in my mind yesterday, when the axle shaft didnt move was...

                              How the heck can that lock up in like 11 months?????

                              Cant explain it, dont care :p Its loose.
                              Dan




                              Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                              Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                              I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                              R.I.P.
                              Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                              Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                              Silver 1988 Festiva L

                              My Music!
                              http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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