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    I'm going to attack it with a hammer.

    So I have a 92 Festiva that has been sitting for a while. Fuel pump went out. rigged up an escort pump to work and it ran fine to drive home (although it did require some stopping to unplug and dump the fuel filter) now it wont start and run. it will turn over, when i disconnect the filter and turn it over, I do see fuel being pumped in, but the car dies almost immediately. On the little box with 3 jumper wires (egi, head, and something else( the egi wire dried up and broke so i backyard rigged it before i drove the car. Not sure if that is of significance. i am honestly running out of idead. does the tank have to be sealed tight? help!

    Excuse the lack of grammar or puntuation. I am intelligent despite the impression I may be giving...in a hurry and typing on my phone
    Last edited by goodfella; 09-06-2012, 02:05 AM.
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  • #2
    Starts and dies off right away? As in a second or two? Try the connection at the VAF, which is the sensor plug in on top of the air filter.

    That "wire" you backyarded is actually a fusible link and should be replaced with a 40 AMP, (IIRC) fuse with "long legs." Give that a shot before anything else, I bet you are burning through it....

    Welcome to the forum, but don't take a hammer to it! Be sure to add your location on your profile, there may be a member near you who can help.

    And plan on coming to the largest Festiva meet in the nation, Festiva Madness VI! First Saturday of every October....We are shooting for a hundred cars this year!
    Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
    Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
    "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the site!

      Suggest you add your location to your profile, there are people here who will actually drive out and help you, if it isnt halfway across the country!

      The little box - get rid of the 3 wires! Replace with fuses, that are available at any parts store. Use at least 20 amp on the outsides, and 30 amp in the middle. 20-30-20. Much better, and cheap! Some have used 30-40-30 in the box. The fuses are maybe 1/2 inch x 5/8 x 1/2 high, and have prongs on them, that plug into where the wires plugged.
      Be sure to try and clean the box terminals as best you can. I used a small copper brush from a gun cleaning kit, to brush up the terminals, and blew them out with air.

      You may have issues with your TPS or VAF sensors too. Some times a good cleaning of those will cure the problem.

      EDIT: SCITZZ kinda beat me to it. :p
      Last edited by drddan; 09-06-2012, 04:32 AM.
      Dan




      Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

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      • #4
        Originally posted by drddan View Post
        and 30 amp in the middle. 20-30-20. Much better, and cheap! Some have used 30-40-30 in the box.
        Ooooooooooh.

        I kept melting the 30's I had in my glove box when I managed to blow the 40. Somehow, I didn't have a spare. Blew 4 30's in a 7 mile drive....ended up using a piece of amp wire to limp home, and that was smoking like crazy!
        Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
        Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
        "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by scitzz View Post
          Ooooooooooh.

          I kept melting the 30's I had in my glove box when I managed to blow the 40. Somehow, I didn't have a spare. Blew 4 30's in a 7 mile drive....ended up using a piece of amp wire to limp home, and that was smoking like crazy!
          You know that is NOT good! What is pulling that much current? :eeeeeek:
          Dan




          Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

          Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

          I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

          R.I.P.
          Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
          Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
          Silver 1988 Festiva L

          My Music!
          http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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          • #6
            Originally posted by drddan View Post
            You know that is NOT good! What is pulling that much current? :eeeeeek:
            My right foot? I dunno, I don't have AC, or an amp, or even a powerful stereo, but on a 40 I am fine and dandy. Every setup I have seen has been 30 40 30. I would suggest 30 40 30 every time. If I am not mistaken, that is also the ratings on the fusible links, but don't quote me on that before I look it up!
            Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
            Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
            "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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            • #7
              Oh, and they are cartridge fuses that fit with no mods, with the long legs.
              Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
              Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
              "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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              • #8
                But you should'nt be blowing fuses like that. Prolly a short somewhere.
                Knock on wood, so far, I havent ever blown one of those fuses....and I prolly just jinxed myself!
                Dan




                Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                R.I.P.
                Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                Silver 1988 Festiva L

                My Music!
                http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by drddan View Post
                  But you should'nt be blowing fuses like that. Prolly a short somewhere.
                  Knock on wood, so far, I havent ever blown one of those fuses....and I prolly just jinxed myself!
                  Yeah, I had a short. And a moron! I replaced, in the parking lot at work, my clutch cable. When I went inside, my "friend" thought he would help me, and reroute my wiring harness from the back side of my engine under my clutch cable. :nono: So, a few hours later, I rubbed through, burned up part of my harness, and blew the fuse. Spent a couple hours tracking down all the burn throughs, and wrapped them in tape, and limped home. Put in a fusible link from a parts car when I got there.

                  A few days later, got a new wiring harness, and tossed a spare 30 in, blew it as I pulled into Advance Auto, and bought a 40. Using the same one now 3 years later. I am gonna go with 30 40 30
                  Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
                  Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
                  "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scitzz View Post
                    Yeah, I had a short. And a moron! I replaced, in the parking lot at work, my clutch cable. When I went inside, my "friend" thought he would help me, and reroute my wiring harness from the back side of my engine under my clutch cable. :nono: So, a few hours later, I rubbed through, burned up part of my harness, and blew the fuse. Spent a couple hours tracking down all the burn throughs, and wrapped them in tape, and limped home. Put in a fusible link from a parts car when I got there.

                    A few days later, got a new wiring harness, and tossed a spare 30 in, blew it as I pulled into Advance Auto, and bought a 40. Using the same one now 3 years later. I am gonna go with 30 40 30
                    So...your all better now? :p
                    Dan




                    Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                    Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                    I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                    R.I.P.
                    Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                    Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                    Silver 1988 Festiva L

                    My Music!
                    http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by drddan View Post
                      So...your all better now? :p
                      If I was any better, I would be twins, and NO ONE can handle that!
                      Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
                      Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
                      "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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                      • #12
                        Oh, was that an AMP wire? .....like in a cord to a GUITAR AMP?! :eeeeeek:
                        Dan




                        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                        R.I.P.
                        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                        Silver 1988 Festiva L

                        My Music!
                        http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                        • #13
                          Close, one that I had run in the car years before for a large amplifier. Amp is gone, wiring is still there. I cut a small piece off to use.
                          Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
                          Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
                          "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by scitzz View Post
                            Close, one that I had run in the car years before for a large amplifier. Amp is gone, wiring is still there. I cut a small piece off to use.
                            Neccesity is the mother of invention!
                            Dan




                            Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                            Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                            I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                            R.I.P.
                            Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                            Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                            Silver 1988 Festiva L

                            My Music!
                            http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by drddan View Post
                              Neccesity is the mother of invention!
                              Meh, I call it redneck engineering
                              Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
                              Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
                              "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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