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  • New Engine. Bad Noise.

    So I finally finished putting the Aspire engine in my Aqua car.
    Took a bit to get it started and when it started.... ugh. VERY loud rattly/kocking noises. Doesn't sound like the bearing noises I've heard before though. This is crazy loud.
    The engine won't really idle but revs up fine. Noise is at all RPM ranges. I've adjusted ignition timing but no change. I put fresh oil in before cranking and there is oil circulating.

    Here's a video:
    http://s1004.beta.photobucket.com/user/oren09/media/Aqua/2013-01-10_12-14-59_357_zps1c652c20.mp4.html
    I don't know why Photobucket is insisting on giving me direct download links.
    Here's the whole album. Video is first item.


    Any ideas? I'm uber frustrated with this whole thing. The junkyard gave me 30 days exchange warranty and that expires on the 13th. If this engine is junk, I wasted $300.
    Last edited by Oren09; 01-10-2013, 01:46 PM.
    ~Austin
    Red 88 L (Ocho)

  • #2
    Can't get the vid to load on my comp here at work (ooooollllldddd and ssssslllloooowwww) but the first thing that comes to mind is torque converter bolts? Might have a little more insight if I can get the vid to load, but I think I remember yours being an ATX. Does the noise follow engine speed? Could also be some of the HLAs aren't pumped up yet, if the engine sat for a while might have to take them apart, clean and fill with fresh oil.
    Last edited by htchbck; 01-10-2013, 02:39 PM.
    No festiva for me ATM...

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    • #3
      do you have oil pressure ? if its an auto sounds like converter is loose,check bolts on flex plate, take a long screw driver put it on valve cover and liten to the other end ,try the same on the oil pan this will help you to isolate where noise is

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      • #4
        something is definately loose, that's a hollow knock (like in a bell housing, or oil pan). best go over all the bolts you touched.
        Trees aren't kind to me...

        currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
        94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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        • #5
          The frequency is faster than 1 rev, Has to be flywheel - torque converter
          Like everybody says..Can't think of anything inside spinning that could
          repeat that fast.
          Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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          • #6
            Sounds like torque conveter studs/nuts hitting the inspection cover to me. Did it get bent going on?
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            • #7
              i would go back everything and look to see if there's any damage at all as well, to be sure, to be sure, to be sure.

              but festyboy did mention a hollow sound which is a massive clue to where it is.. i would even go as far as to go under the car and have a listen there too and have a mate rev it high enough to find the noise or even "feel the motor" to see if you can find the source and obviously, watch for hotspots.
              Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
              Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

              Avg Economy:
              Highway - 7.32L/100km
              City - yet to be determined.

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              • #8
                I'll pull the inspection cover and run the engine to see if I can see what's going on.
                ~Austin
                Red 88 L (Ocho)

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                • #9
                  Mini update.

                  I tightened down all of the torque converter bolts and the noise went away!
                  Thank goodness it was so simple and good catch y'all.

                  The engine itself runs pretty good and seems to be ok. Except for idle. It will high idle ok but settles into a low erratic sputtering idle. I have the distributor turned all the way clockwise (looking strigh at the dizzy from driver's side) just to keep it running. And I'm getting a slight knock when driving that sounds like rod bearing. I'm about to get the car on the highway and run it for a bit to see if I can clean it out with RPMs and use up some of the antique gas.
                  ~Austin
                  Red 88 L (Ocho)

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                  • #10
                    you are not ready for that hiway just yet. Check the cam timing..check how the wires are in the cap, you need figure that out. No need to hole the piston or something .
                    Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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                    • #11
                      The car ran alright in town but wouldn't get over 55-60. So I went over it some more. Turns out I had a giant vacuum leak at the throttle body. I forgot to clean old gasket pieces off the back of it. Heh.
                      After correcting that the idle went perfect. And engine runs good. No knock or valve clatter. And a little more driving and I think I have the ignition timing set pretty good. The car has good acceleration- more than I'd expect for an auto Festiva. Runs great on the highway. I had it in 2nd gear at 65MPH for several miles to get everything heated up and it smoked a little for a bit then cleared away .
                      I think I may be ready to tackle the Texas inspection soon. Just need a horn. Stock one is unresponsive.

                      However... when first starting the engine it sounds like it wants to die and it hesitates to rev but after revving it a few times it runs normal. Quite odd.

                      And the front crank and rear main is leaking. I'm kicking myself in the head for not replacing those before putting in the engine.
                      ~Austin
                      Red 88 L (Ocho)

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                      • #12
                        I have the same noise as what you had. I just finished rebuilding the motor. I made the mistake to not marking the flex plate before removal so now I'm kicking my self. I've torqued the flywheel bolts and housing using a torque wrench and using the manual as a reference. I remove the flex plate cover and noticed the plate looks like its rubbing on the engine oil pan. Do you think I've installed it backwards? Or do I need to retorque the flex plate?

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