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    Is it legal to change the mileage on a odometer if you're trying to repair and not trying to sell it?

  • #2
    Originally posted by spoman View Post
    Is it legal to change the mileage on a odometer if you're trying to repair and not trying to sell it?
    Highly unlikely that this is legal anywhere/anytime. But in the same token; it is not illegal to replace an instrument cluster or speedo, nor is it illegal to drive around with a broken speedo cable. Ya gotta remember these cars are so old now that nobody will put faith in an odometer reading anyway. My car went all the way up to 300,000km a few years ago and then suddenly read 150,000 miles and sprouted a tachometer. Ministry of Transportation has never had a consistent reading from me from anything I drive.
    Use the search feature: a forum member carefully outlined a few years ago, with pictures, how to reset the odometer gears on a swap unit so as to match the original one. And honestly I can't see someone going to the 'big house' for doing something conscientious as that!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bert View Post
      Highly unlikely that this is legal anywhere/anytime. But in the same token; it is not illegal to replace an instrument cluster or speedo, nor is it illegal to drive around with a broken speedo cable. Ya gotta remember these cars are so old now that nobody will put faith in an odometer reading anyway. My car went all the way up to 300,000km a few years ago and then suddenly read 150,000 miles and sprouted a tachometer. Ministry of Transportation has never had a consistent reading from me from anything I drive.
      Use the search feature: a forum member carefully outlined a few years ago, with pictures, how to reset the odometer gears on a swap unit so as to match the original one. And honestly I can't see someone going to the 'big house' for doing something conscientious as that!
      True, but how are they going to prove that you manipulated the odometer? You can say you just swapped the cluster, and threw away the other.
      Last edited by TorqueEffect; 03-14-2013, 07:37 PM.
      1991 Ford Festiva BP (Full Aspire/Rio Swap) (337k Miles) (Around 95k Engine)
      2002 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport 2.2L DOHC Ecotec (Threw a Rod)
      1998 Chevy Monte Carlo LS 3.1 V6 (225k miles) Best MPG = 28

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TorqueEffect View Post
        True, but how are they going to prove that you manipulated the odometer? You can say you just swapped the cluster, and threw away the other.
        As you and me both said: highly unlikely an Authority is ever going to chase after someone that messes with a Festy speedo. Just remember what to say if you're ever accused of tampering; "the old one was broken and I had to replace it with another used one".

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        • #5
          I have a motor bike (SYM RV250) that has a digital readout and when it the miles get to around 6500 miles on the ODO it goes back to zero. I even had the cluster replaced and it still goes to zero at around 6500. I have around 27,000 miles on it now but the ODO reads 2,500.

          My opinion is you will NOT get in trouble.
          1993 Ford Festiva L blue 170,000 miles
          1990 Ford Festiva L Plus white 190,000 Auto, currently waiting to have another engine put in.
          1995 Ford F150 XLT black 203,000 miles
          2002 Honda CRV silver 180,000 miles
          2003 Toyota Rav4 Sport black 94,000 miles
          2008 Sym Rv250 dark grey 30,000 miles. My scooter.
          1989 Ford Festiva LX black 233,000 miles. Sold to my better half's son.

          Mike

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          • #6
            U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04

            United States Code
            Title 49 - Transportation
            Subtitle VI - Motor Vehicle and Driver Programs
            Part C - Information, Standards, and Requirements
            Chapter 327 - Odometers

            Section 32704. Service, Repair, And Replacement
            (a) Adjusting Mileage. - A person may service, repair, or replace an odometer of a motor vehicle if the mileage registered by the odometer remains the same as before the service, repair, or replacement. If the mileage cannot remain the same -
            - (1) the person shall adjust the odometer to read zero; and
            - (2) the owner of the vehicle or agent of the owner shall attach a written notice to the left door frame of the vehicle specifying the mileage before the service, repair, or replacement and the date of the service, repair, or replacement.

            (b) Removing or Altering Notice. - A person may not, with intent to defraud, remove or alter a notice attached to a motor vehicle as required by this section.

            Thats what a quick google search brought me.
            91 Festiva L "Erika" b3t swap on the way
            06 Jeep Cherokee Overland
            95 Aspire (sold)

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            • #7
              In ARkansas when I renew plate every year I have to state odometer reading and tell if mileage is over 100000 miles. Over 100000 miles, nobody really cares. At that mileage, condition is everything, mileage is meaningless.

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              • #8
                Im sure it varies by state, but here in Nebraska, no one really cares about the odometer on any vehicle over 10yrs old. An odometer statement isnt even require for sale or printed on the title....unless you elect to have it put on the title during the sale (i.e. the car has low miles and you WANT it to be documented). Unless you purposely alter the odometer to read low mileage and sell it at such in order to defraud the buyer, I wouldn't even worry about it at all.
                Brian

                93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
                04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
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                • #9
                  Basically to sum it up, if you not trying to sell it for top cash as a 30k original mileage, you should be fine. If for some reason you go to sell it, be sure to disclose its not actual mileage and your good.
                  Im not driving a Festiva because I'm poor. I drive a Festiva because i want to!

                  Dennis
                  93 L Advancedynamics suspension mod, awaiting B6 swap
                  91 GL B6 sohc, currently in the hands of DAE undergoing top secret work. Soon to be cable G, with stage 3 F1 Kevlar clutch... To be continued
                  93 GL In progress BP/hydro G
                  15 Mitsubishi Mirage daily
                  88 Dakota tow pig

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