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  • Repairing a VAF

    Has anyone ever identified what actually fails when a VAF goes bad? Is there a specific component that can be replaced? If we just hit the boneyard for a replacement we are going to run out of them.

    Bill

  • #2
    I've wondered this too. I mean if people on the forum are smart enough and ambitious enough to re wrap wire on to a sending unit then surely someone has investigated the problems with the vaf.

    Sent from Kingston Ga from my hillbilly handheld
    90 festy with 92 FI motor. Digital camo paint. BHAF. short throw. currently 47 MPGs

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    • #3
      I've read that it's the POT track that wears out, and as that is the piece that takes probably 95+% of the wear, I'd say that's pretty accurate.

      The VAF is really a simple thing. Stupid simple. It's just a POT with a huge lever(the flapper) controlling it. A fix should involve laying down new semiconductor material. What exactly that material is, IDK.
      Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

      Old Blue- New Tricks
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      • #4
        Well if that is all there is to it, I am going go at fixing one. If it works out I'll post pics and parts used.

        Bill

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        • #5
          Go 93festiva go!

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          • #6
            After you take a picture of it disassembled, let me know what parts we have to look for.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkyfjo7spFc
            Last edited by bravekozak; 11-21-2013, 08:40 AM.

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            • #7
              This sounds like the OEM method.
              Originally posted by wikipedia
              Conductive track potentiometers use conductive polymer resistor pastes that contain hard-wearing resins and polymers, solvents, and lubricant, in addition to the carbon that provides the conductive properties.
              I broke open a VAF and it does look like a resin poured onto the surface of a PCB for the contact to ride on. How you'd get a hold of that stuff is beyond me. But the foil idea might do it.

              EDIT: Fiberglass resin mixed with graphite powder and some kind of dry film lube powder perhaps?
              Last edited by sketchman; 11-21-2013, 08:34 AM.
              Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

              Old Blue- New Tricks
              91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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              • #8
                The problem you'll run into is finding a replacement material with exactly the same resistance per inch as the OE material.

                Maybe if you moved the wiper arm up or down 1/32" you might be able to contact fresh material and be good for for another lifetime of operation. IIRC the wiper only contacts a very narrow strip of the available material
                1991 Mercury Capri XR2 "GTXR2" BPT Swapped AWD Conversion

                Rocketchips!
                High Flow B3/B6/BP VAF Adapters for sale!
                Bolt-on Weber Carb Adapters!

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                • #9
                  I have a stack of b3 vafs. If Anyone needs one just ask


                  Stupid autocorrect. Thanks Tom V
                  Last edited by eurotiva; 11-21-2013, 11:59 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eurotiva View Post
                    I have a stack of b3 vafs. If Antone needs one just ask
                    Who is Antone, and why can't he ask for himself?
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                    • #11
                      Is there a way to bypass it altogether? That way it will basically just be an air cleaner?
                      89 LX (461xxx miles original motor and trans, retired)
                      90 L (restoration in progress)
                      91 L (saved from abusive owner lol)
                      92 L (DD)
                      88 (model unknown, rust free, possible project)
                      88-89 (parts car. practically picked to the bone)
                      93 GL (parts car)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mystro View Post
                        Is there a way to bypass it altogether? That way it will basically just be an air cleaner?
                        yes, if you go to a standalone fuel injection system that uses speed-density or alpaha-n
                        1991 Mercury Capri XR2 "GTXR2" BPT Swapped AWD Conversion

                        Rocketchips!
                        High Flow B3/B6/BP VAF Adapters for sale!
                        Bolt-on Weber Carb Adapters!

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                        • #13
                          Yes, change to a non-feeback carb. Presently, the output (three wires) from the VAF sends a signal to the ECA. Otherwise limp mode + you would have to either change the fuel pump relay to a single solenoid, or add a new hot source that says the engine isn't running.
                          Last edited by bravekozak; 11-21-2013, 12:34 PM.

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                          • #14
                            sounds like i better stick with what I got haha
                            89 LX (461xxx miles original motor and trans, retired)
                            90 L (restoration in progress)
                            91 L (saved from abusive owner lol)
                            92 L (DD)
                            88 (model unknown, rust free, possible project)
                            88-89 (parts car. practically picked to the bone)
                            93 GL (parts car)

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                            • #15
                              Eurotiva,
                              Are they "good" vaf's?
                              If so I will gladly take them off your hands. You name the price.

                              Bill

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