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    Beginning to have trouble shifting into 2nd Gear. It grinds. If I double clutch it goes in without grinding. Down shifting to 1st except at very slow speeds, I get some slight grinding. The transmission never pops out of any gear. Once in, it stays and runs well.

    250K miles on the tranny, new clutch and throw-out bearings. Old long shifter with new spacers. No idea if spacers are correctly sized. Anyone have ideas ??

    i218127

  • #2
    Synchro rings are toast. Not much you can do about that except replace them or double clutch all the time. You could try thicker tranny oil as a last ditch effort.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bert View Post
      Synchro rings are toast. Not much you can do about that except replace them or double clutch all the time. You could try thicker tranny oil as a last ditch effort.
      Anyone have pictures of how this is done ?? Anyone have a good 5 speed for sale ??

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      • #4
        Several of mine do that, one on 2nd only (my nice "city" LX car with 190K, so a royal pain), another on 5th only (one of my 160K "transcontinental" cars, so a pain on mountain freeways when bouncing between 4th and 5th to maintain speed). Otherwise, the gearboxes are all fine.

        Q1: Is is practical to open up a gearbox to replace one syncrho ring (or whatever is it?).
        Q2: If doing for one gear, should it be done for all 5 gears? I assume reverse doen't have syncro.
        Q3: What else would be worth replacing if opening up a gearbox? Bearings?
        Q4: At what point does it amount to an "overhaul" of the gearbox? Are all the parts available? What else is there besides bearings and synchros? Any special tools required?
        Q5: Would this let me see why axles refuse to come out? One with no syncro problems but worn out CV joints absolutely refuses to release either driveshaft -- I was thinking of removing that gearbox and disassembling it sufficiently to see the circlips, destroy them, and push the driveshafts out. If opening it up, should I "overhaul" it? It has 150+ on it. Where do I get top-quality circlips?
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        • #5
          Adjust the cable and +1 with a ticker oil; try gear oil 80w90( this is what i have in mine, no intention on starting an oil debate ) . Always start with the cheapest option first. Are you completely sure that the clutch was changed and with the correct one? I friend of mine took his old Fiat to the dealer workshop and they told him that they change it, the car felt exactly the same as it went in. We took it apart and guess what!?!?!? they didn't change it... just an idea if you didn't change it yourself...

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