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    Alright so I just did a complete rebuild to my 90 lx b3. New head all the works I that. Bottom end was done also. But it back together set my timing put the motor in the car and turned the key and nothing -_- So my first though was turn the dizzy. Nope didn't work. After about an hr of trying to set the crank and head timing marks a hundred times. I found out one of my plug wires on my cap was wrong. Fixed it and started right up. But shakes a little and when you put it in drive (auto) and dies out. And my #2 and #3 plugs are always filed.

    New dizzy, plugs, wires, coil, ign module. I'm tottaly puzzled and quite frankly pissed lol. I miss my car and need some help I think its in the timing.

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  • #2
    Just to get the help line started....are you saying that #2 & 3 plugs are fouled? If so, are they fouled with oil or fuel?

    Just FYI, the correct firing order is 1,3,4,2 clockwise.
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    • #3
      Double check that the timing cog marks line up right.


      /also your location might help
      Last edited by zoom zoom; 06-02-2014, 04:47 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dalebwilson View Post
        Just to get the help line started....are you saying that #2 & 3 plugs are fouled? If so, are they fouled with oil or fuel?

        Just FYI, the correct firing order is 1,3,4,2 clockwise.
        Fouled with gas, I'm pretty positive it has to do with timing


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        • #5
          Assuming your spark plug wires are in the right order and the timing marks were properly lined up when the engine was assembled, then:

          Pull the plug on the ignition coil.
          Remove number 1 spark plug.
          Put your finger over the hole.
          Have the prettiest girl in the neighborhood jog the engine until you feel pressure.
          Stop and check to see if the rotor is almost at the #1 terminal.
          If so, adjust the distributor so that it is just ahead of #1. Put everything back and have your pretty assistant fire her up.
          Last edited by bravekozak; 06-02-2014, 08:58 AM.

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          • #6
            Well that's the thing It was all lined up timing wise, then we thought it was out and started spinning gears around, and it might be out of time now because of my wire screw up.

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            • #7
              What was the issue with the engine that caused you to rebuild it?
              2008 Kia Rio- new beater
              1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
              1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
              1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
              1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
              1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
              1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
              1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



              "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by supmanrj View Post
                found out one of my plug wires on my cap was wrong.
                This part doesn't make sense to me... if you mean that two of your wires were swapped, then ignore this post, but I'm not getting how ONE wire can be wrong.
                No festiva for me ATM...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by htchbck View Post
                  This part doesn't make sense to me... if you mean that two of your wires were swapped, then ignore this post, but I'm not getting how ONE wire can be wrong.
                  My bad lol, yea two o them were swapped.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by zoom zoom View Post
                    What was the issue with the engine that caused you to rebuild it?
                    Piston oil rings got stuck and it used like a gallon of oil a week. It was basically the biggest mosquito repellent maker lol.

                    But I just reset the timing and the car starts right up. But when I take the dizzy cap off, the button is across from the #1 plug. But I set it at the #1 when I set the cam timing marks??? I'm confused?

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                    • #11
                      Remember the rotor button will go on in 3 different directions. Make sure the #1 piston is at TDC and then make sure your rotor button is pointing at the #1 wire


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                      • #12
                        Fouling of the spark plugs makes me think you had/have the wires wrong.

                        1342 counter-clockwise on the distributor, starting from the one closest to your face when you stand in front of the car.
                        Plug 1 is the far left, counting across to the right to plug 4.

                        The timing belt could still be a contributor. To reset cam timing, Pull the tensioner back and tighten it out of the way. Pull off the belt, then align the cam marks to 12. Pull the belt tight from the crank to the right side of the cam pulley before you push it around and on. Let the tension of the spring pull the tensioner to the belt and tighten it.

                        Other things to check for loss of power: unmetered air leaks between the VAF and intake, dirty air filter or fuel filter, spark timing (clocking the distributor). If you set the spark timing, don't forget to ground out the single terminal by the brake booster to train the computer. I forget whether it's the single white or single black spade connector though.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by supmanrj View Post
                          Piston oil rings got stuck and it used like a gallon of oil a week. It was basically the biggest mosquito repellent maker lol.

                          But I just reset the timing and the car starts right up. But when I take the dizzy cap off, the button is across from the #1 plug. But I set it at the #1 when I set the cam timing marks??? I'm confused?

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                          Even though there are three positions the rotor can go on....it will only start in the right position. I am pretty sure...like the other...it is a timing issue.
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                          • #14
                            Zack....ST1 is the black connector, yellow wire with green stripe. The white connector is for the tachometer.



                            Originally posted by crazyrog17 View Post
                            Fouling of the spark plugs makes me think you had/have the wires wrong.

                            1342 counter-clockwise on the distributor, starting from the one closest to your face when you stand in front of the car.
                            Plug 1 is the far left, counting across to the right to plug 4.

                            The timing belt could still be a contributor. To reset cam timing, Pull the tensioner back and tighten it out of the way. Pull off the belt, then align the cam marks to 12. Pull the belt tight from the crank to the right side of the cam pulley before you push it around and on. Let the tension of the spring pull the tensioner to the belt and tighten it.

                            Other things to check for loss of power: unmetered air leaks between the VAF and intake, dirty air filter or fuel filter, spark timing (clocking the distributor). If you set the spark timing, don't forget to ground out the single terminal by the brake booster to train the computer. I forget whether it's the single white or single black spade connector though.
                            "Fred" 93 Festiva L B6-ME Swap
                            “Though he is small, he is but fierce.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dalebwilson View Post
                              Zack....ST1 is the black connector, yellow wire with green stripe. The white connector is for the tachometer.
                              Aha! I have been wondering which one was to set timing. I tried grounding that one to set my timing but if I do my car wont start... Im guessing its because my timing is off. ( sorry for a tad thread jack)

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