Brakes went out

[fudge]

Ok so tonight I finally had time to come home and try to find the leak. The only place we saw a leak was in the back near the rear beam. We couldn't exactly tell what it was that was leaking or where it was coming from but here is a pic 20161204_183436.jpg other than this we did not see any obvious leaks. when my car iss on my brake booster seems to squeak sometimes. Though this was the only leak, it seemed to leak a lot at times. My dad didn't even think that was brake fluid but I don't know what else it could be. Any ideas? Thanks

[FestYboy]

That's an exhaust leak from the weep hole at the muffler.
Check near the rear of the crossmember, and in each of the front wheel wells. And pull the booster vacuum hose and look for fluid in therre as well.

[PbFlinger]

Have you put some more brake fluid in it & pumped them? Sounds like a possibly a rusted out & leaking line somewhere. If you refill the reservoir & pump the brakes it should quickly show where the fluid is going. If you have mysteriously disappearing fluid with no external leaks, it could be leaking out the back of the master cylinder into the booster. It can then get sucked into the engine & get burned. If this happens it usually ruins the booster. As stated before you're at the very least going to need some wheel cylinders.

[fudge]

Have you put some more brake fluid in it & pumped them? Sounds like a possibly a rusted out & leaking line somewhere. If you refill the reservoir & pump the brakes it should quickly show where the fluid is going. If you have mysteriously disappearing fluid with no external leaks, it could be leaking out the back of the master cylinder into the booster. It can then get sucked into the engine & get burned. If this happens it usually ruins the booster. As stated before you're at the very least going to need some wheel cylinders.

Yep that's one of the first things we tried. we put more brake fluid in, put a lot of cardboard under my car and then pumped the brakes and watched for leaks. The only visible leak was the exhaust leak. We tried with the car on and off both multiple times and that was all we saw. I have yet to go home and inspect the other things festyboy has recommended which is next on the to do list. I saw that it could be leaking into the brake booster so we tried to check that but the hose seemed to be really stuck on there. I will try again harder next time, maybe I was pulling the wrong thing lol. I plan on replacing the wheel cylinders and master cylinder for sure and possibly the brake booster too.

[WmWatt]

Spray some WD-40 on the stuck hose. Try lifting the edge with a small screw driver to get the WD-40 in there. Then use a pair of pliers to gently try to rotate hose on spout to loosen.

[firebush357]

Spray some WD-40 on the stuck hose. Try lifting the edge with a small screw driver to get the WD-40 in there. Then use a pair of pliers to gently try to rotate hose on spout to loosen.

Yeah, They usually get stuck on there after a while and need to be broke loose. This is the same technique I use to get them off when they get stuck.

[fudge]

Thanks a lot for the advice guys but I tried again a couple times and I just cannot get the hose to budge. I think I have been closer ripping the hose than getting it off. I was only able to get a little bit of WD-40 under the hose and I am pretty bad at trying to do this gently.

Anyways, I still couldn't find the brake fluid leak. I ordered a master cylinder and brake booster from jfd64 and I plan on buying two wheel cylinders from rock auto. Could I just cut the hose and buy a new one? I would rather do that than get this old one off and put it back on. What is the hose part called? I couldn't find it on rock auto.

[firebush357]

If there is enough Slack in the Vacuum line then you can just cut the end off and stretch it out a little to reinstall, I have done that with a few of my hoses that had deteriorating ends. If you bought those parts from jfd64 you could ask to see if he has an extra hose as well. As far as I know they don't sell those hoses on RockAuto but they might have one on 4Green if you want to keep the stock look, or you could just find the right size non molded universal hose at an auto parts store to replace it with as long as it doesn't kink.

[WmWatt]

How cold is it in Charlottesville these days? If the rubber is stiff from the cold maybe you could borrow a hair drier or heat gun and try warming the hose to get get it to flex and release.

[firebush357]

How cold is it in Charlottesville these days? If the rubber is stiff from the cold maybe you could borrow a hair drier or heat gun and try warming the hose to get get it to flex and release.

I had to do this while working on my F-250 Turbo Hoses. I think his may actually be kinda melted/fused onto the nipple itself. I had a couple of hoses do that on my little brothers Festiva.

[1990new]

What hoses do you need? Pretty sure I have extra good ones for the front calipers and also the metal ones that go to the rear wheel cylinders.

[fudge]

What hoses do you need? Pretty sure I have extra good ones for the front calipers and also the metal ones that go to the rear wheel cylinders.

I was talking about the hose that connects the engine to the brake booster, if you have one of those let me know! I might want the ones you are talking about too! Are the metal ones the braided brake cables that I want?

So I got the brake booster and master cylinder in the mail and I just ordered two wheel cylinders from rockauto. I noticed there were "wheel cylinder repair kits" is that something I might need to go along with my wheel cylinders? Are there any other parts I should replace/upgrade in this process?

[1990new]

I was talking about the hose that connects the engine to the brake booster, if you have one of those let me know! I might want the ones you are talking about too! Are the metal ones the braided brake cables that I want?

So I got the brake booster and master cylinder in the mail and I just ordered two wheel cylinders from rockauto. I noticed there were "wheel cylinder repair kits" is that something I might need to go along with my wheel cylinders? Are there any other parts I should replace/upgrade in this process?

You don't need wheel cylinder repair kits. You use those when you want to rebuild the wheel cylinders yourself. Now days you can get the entire new or rebuilt wheel cylinders for just a little more money.
Pretty sure I have one of the brake booster vacuum hoses. The flexible brake line hoses that I have do not have the steel braiding on the outside. They are the stock hoses. On the rear there is a flexible hose that connects the steel tube at the body to the steel tube on the trailing arm on both sides. On the front the flexible hose on each side connects to the caliper via a banjo fitting. Pretty sure I have a complete set of all those hoses.
PM me with what you need and I will round up the parts let you know what I can ship them to you for, plus a minimal charge for the parts.

[fudge]

You don't need wheel cylinder repair kits. You use those when you want to rebuild the wheel cylinders yourself. Now days you can get the entire new or rebuilt wheel cylinders for just a little more money.
Pretty sure I have one of the brake booster vacuum hoses. The flexible brake line hoses that I have do not have the steel braiding on the outside. They are the stock hoses. On the rear there is a flexible hose that connects the steel tube at the body to the steel tube on the trailing arm on both sides. On the front the flexible hose on each side connects to the caliper via a banjo fitting. Pretty sure I have a complete set of all those hoses.
PM me with what you need and I will round up the parts let you know what I can ship them to you for, plus a minimal charge for the parts.

Thanks I'll pm you when I find out just what I need, thanks!

[fudge]

I finally got the hose off of the brake booster and took the master cylinder and brake booster out! After doing so I noticed this plug thing was not connected to anything and I was wondering what it is supposed to connect to, I couldn't figure it out!
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Also the nut of a brake line attached to my master cylinder got completely stripped and I had to use a vice grip to get it off. Where might I buy a replacement?