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    Hey Guys,

    I recently purchased a 1990 Festiva. The shifter has lots of play to it. Does the car have shifter arm and shifter linkage bushings?

    If so does anyone sell a kit with all the bushings? Or does anyone have the part numbers?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Welcome to the forum!

    Do a search on "shifter fix" or something like that. There are plenty of ways to fix this.
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    • #3
      Shifter bushing available from Mazda, Kia, and NAPA. May have to be ordered.
      "Blue92"- 92L 5 spd, original owner- 185K, B8,DD..
      "Pedro"-88L 5-spd, B6D (built by Advancedynamix)
      "Blanca"-92 GL auto, 125K(FM8 Lowest Miles)- B6 daughter's DD
      "Tractor Blue"- 89 L auto, 110K
      "Chester"-88 LX, runs but not street legal
      "Wenona"-89L parts car
      "Flame"- 89 LX 5 spd ,parts car

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      • #4
        welcomsign
        Welcome!
        You need new bushings.
        There are 4 plastic bushings that wear out.
        The Kia part number for the bushing is KKY01 46062



        Here is the pdf.
        The Kia part number for the boot is KKY01 46090



        The Kia part number for the upper ball seal is KKY02 46081


        The Kia part number for the lower ball seal is KKY01 46086



        I personally use bronzoil bushings from Corksport because I hate going under cars more than once.


        Last edited by bravekozak; 12-23-2017, 10:29 AM.

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        • #5
          Awesome! Thank you very much! Do you sell the parts? I'd like to replace the wear items you listed. How much for a "kit"?

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          • #6
            Buy them from you KIA dealer.
            Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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            • #7
              Austin, those pictures are from an old group buy from Four Green.
              The parts are all gone. Only the pictures remain.

              I checked if I could buy a rod of bronzoil and have some bushings lathed.
              But it wouldn't save very much money over what Corksport charges.
              Last edited by bravekozak; 12-27-2017, 11:40 PM.

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              • #8
                You can also get Bronze ones from CorkSport but they are quite pricey, around $35 a set iirc.
                "The White Turd" 1993 Festiva 144k miles. (Winner of FOTM November 2016)
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                "The Rusty Banana" 1990 Yellow 5 Speed Mud Festiva (Lifted with 27" BKT Tractor Tires)(Winner of "Best Beater Award" - Madness 12 - 2018)

                "Papa Smurf" 1992 Blue 5 Speed Shell
                "Cracker?" (name pending) 1992 White Auto Shell (Future BP Swap)
                "Green Car..." Scrap Car that Runs?!?
                "Red Car..." Complete Scrap Car

                "El Flama Blanca" 1993 Festiva 104k miles. (Lil Brothers Car)
                https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzM...ew?usp=sharing

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                • #9
                  Thank you! Kia and ford say they are no longer available. Would the linkage bushings cure most of the play? I'm assuming the boot and seals are for the shift lever?

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                  • #10
                    The upper and lower nylon ball seals do not need replacing if they are not cracked.
                    You should take them out to inspect them.
                    Wipe off all of the old grease and replace with some new grease.
                    I would recommend Nanogrease.



                    The lower boot will need to be replaced only if it is ripped or torn,
                    This will prevent water and road dirt from getting into the shifter.

                    Yes the bushings are the main problem with the shifter.
                    Plastic wears away easily. Get some bronze and have four of them turned on a lathe.
                    apply some nano grease. Forget about bronz oil,
                    Last edited by bravekozak; 12-28-2017, 12:48 PM.

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                    • #11
                      There is an Anchor point up near the trans that is supposed to have a Rubber bushing that usually falls apart because of age. Check to see if yours is missing, i think that causes most of the play.
                      Last edited by firebush357; 12-28-2017, 01:55 PM.
                      "The White Turd" 1993 Festiva 144k miles. (Winner of FOTM November 2016)
                      sigpic
                      "The Rusty Banana" 1990 Yellow 5 Speed Mud Festiva (Lifted with 27" BKT Tractor Tires)(Winner of "Best Beater Award" - Madness 12 - 2018)

                      "Papa Smurf" 1992 Blue 5 Speed Shell
                      "Cracker?" (name pending) 1992 White Auto Shell (Future BP Swap)
                      "Green Car..." Scrap Car that Runs?!?
                      "Red Car..." Complete Scrap Car

                      "El Flama Blanca" 1993 Festiva 104k miles. (Lil Brothers Car)
                      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzM...ew?usp=sharing

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Austin View Post
                        Thank you! Kia and ford say they are no longer available. Would the linkage bushings cure most of the play? I'm assuming the boot and seals are for the shift lever?
                        Their listings may not show them specifically for Festivas or Aspires, but they are still available. Buy them for a Kia Rio or early Mazda Miata. Mazda used these bushings on pretty much everything from that timeframe that was manual transmission. You may have to special-order a pack of 10 if they don't have them in stock, but you'll need six for the complete job anyway. Read up on what other people have done, to get pics so you can visualize the process.
                        Last edited by TominMO; 12-28-2017, 02:19 PM.
                        90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                        09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                        You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                        Disaster preparedness

                        Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                        Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                        • #13
                          Ebay has 4 packs for $10
                          "The White Turd" 1993 Festiva 144k miles. (Winner of FOTM November 2016)
                          sigpic
                          "The Rusty Banana" 1990 Yellow 5 Speed Mud Festiva (Lifted with 27" BKT Tractor Tires)(Winner of "Best Beater Award" - Madness 12 - 2018)

                          "Papa Smurf" 1992 Blue 5 Speed Shell
                          "Cracker?" (name pending) 1992 White Auto Shell (Future BP Swap)
                          "Green Car..." Scrap Car that Runs?!?
                          "Red Car..." Complete Scrap Car

                          "El Flama Blanca" 1993 Festiva 104k miles. (Lil Brothers Car)
                          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzM...ew?usp=sharing

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by firebush357 View Post
                            This is the easy way to do this job, and remove at least 90% of the slop. I have done this on a Festiva, replacing the four bushings you can easily get to by just taking the bolts off at the shifter and transmission. For the captured bolt, I just used a very small ziptie next to the inner shaft, to remove some side-to side play. Or you could use something else like a twist tie; better than nothing, quick and free.

                            Don't forget the blue Loctite for the two nuts.
                            Last edited by TominMO; 12-28-2017, 02:48 PM.
                            90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                            09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                            You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                            Disaster preparedness

                            Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                            Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                            • #15
                              Thank you very much!

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