I could, I just hate to run a 2" exhaust the rest of the way back from it. I can't find a 1.5/1.75 (whatever stock size pipe is) glasspack, the smallest I can get is a 2". I've got a straight stock pipe back to a cheap muffler on babyspire and she's not too horribly loud at all, the stereo drowns it out. That's also not a straight thru muffler either so I might end up having to do something like that..we'll see how it turns out I suppose.
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2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Well I got the exhaust welded up today, and there's either not enough back pressure or the tranny has some serious issues. I'm opting for not enough backpressure lol.. gonna buy a thrush turbo muffler tomorrow and see if that helps my cause. I had it up to 55, but it takes forever to get there, it doesn't want to speed up..it's almost like running with an open header. The tranny kicks a little but I think it will calm down a bit when the thing is actually accelerating like it should. The engine sounds smooth to me, it may be slightly out of time, *maybe*, but I haven't heard it backfire at all, and it revs so smooth when it's just sitting and idling.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Originally posted by zoom zoom View PostWell I got the exhaust welded up today, and there's either not enough back pressure or the tranny has some serious issues. I'm opting for not enough backpressure lol.. gonna buy a thrush turbo muffler tomorrow and see if that helps my cause. I had it up to 55, but it takes forever to get there, it doesn't want to speed up..it's almost like running with an open header. The tranny kicks a little but I think it will calm down a bit when the thing is actually accelerating like it should. The engine sounds smooth to me, it may be slightly out of time, *maybe*, but I haven't heard it backfire at all, and it revs so smooth when it's just sitting and idling.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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Yea buddy and I screwed the pooch on that. I also had to work out an issue with an injector, which turned into two bad injectors, then got fixed.
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Haha the head gasket went bad and its my fault. It was running decent, then I set the timing back to TDC and went for a wot ride up a very steep hill. Only took a couple minutes and I came back leaving a smoke trail so thick you couldn't see your hand in front of your face Haha..
It never overheated, the thing started bogging down, I kept it WOT, it got up the hill, I laid into it again, major loss of power and it started knocking, kept it WOT...and the smoke started rolling. After I got it back home I set the timing back to 10*btdc and ran it around...obvious smoke blowing but I got the power back so when I get the new gasket and head back on it should be good to go..hopefully.
The head gasket sealed against the block, but I have some pics here of the head...Last edited by zoom zoom; 03-09-2013, 09:04 PM.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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The first pic is where oil was leaking from the back of the engine behind cylinder 4.
Second pic is of cylinders 1 & 2, you can see where the copper spray washed out.
It looks basically like the whole seal from the head gasket to the head failed...to me.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Well, I got it fired up today, idles ok but there's a bad knocking which is hopefully a lifter, doesn't really sound like a bottom end issue to me but ill find out more tomorrow.
It was idling fine, I didn't try to rev it a single time, I just let it idle for about 10-15 minutes. It was fine until it got warmed up, then started smoking white out of the tailpipe. I shut it down as soon as I seen it, it wasn't a thick cloud, and it only had a tail a foot or 2 before it dissipated. Anyway I shut it down and let it cool off, I was going to retorque the bolts and when I picked up my torque wrench it was broke. Slacked off all the way it was really hard to click, and when it did it didn't pop back in place. Anyway I returned it to autozone and they traded me a new in box one for the one I had and didn't ask any questions.
Now, its burning antifreeze(or could it be unburned fuel??) Is there any hope for this working or do I need to pull the head and do the whole nine yards all over again with a new gasket? I want to try loosening the bolts one at a time and torquing them down to 60, and hope it quits blowing smoke but with that little bit of antifreeze already in there I don't know if it will work or not. What's the deal do I gotta pull this head again?2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Is it possible the other mating surface isn't flat/true? The top of the bottom end.
Or could it need to be torqued down a tiny bit more for the added pressure in the cylinder?(sounds risky of breaking a bolt) I'm just trying to think of possible ideas.
My last idea is torque wrenches aren't always %100 accurate they have a sort of accuracy band for certain ft lbs. And the cheaper the torque wrench the less accurate. This could be part of the problem. I know most people don't spend $300-$500 on a quality wrench that has high accuracy.Last edited by rmoltis; 03-10-2013, 10:13 PM.
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Yea cheap torque wrenches will get you every time. I believe that's been my problem this whole time..well that and I shouldn't mess with timing unless I absolutely have to haha..
I went out this morning and retorqued the bolts by loosening them all up a little, I didn't relieve all the pressure, just enough that they were still snug, and torqued them down to 63 ft lbs. I fired it up and it blew out a little white smoke for a couple minutes, then miraculously stopped blowing out white smoke!!!!! I let it sit there idling like that for awhile, then took it for a drive.. the steering was sloppy and I figured this whole time it was a ball joint...I got it jacked up and wiggled the tire and the slop was comming from the inner tie rod end...or so I thought...I got the inner rod end off my spare rack and went to remove the one off the car, and found out the slop was comming from the rack itself!!!!!!!!
So I swapped the steering rack I had laying around from crustyspire (which was in good shape, feels like brand new inner rod ends) and got together a couple decent outter tie rod ends/ ball joints I had laying around. The ones that were on the car were sloppy loose but not totally shot, I just put slightly less garbage ball joints back on it.
Anyway after a home brew front end alignment I fired it up and drove into town, cruised around stopped and seen friends.. just made a 2-3 hour trip out of it...the car did great. It still has plenty of problems, but for now it's moving under its' own power. I wouldn't take further than 50 miles yet because the front brake hardware but it's rolling good. Time for a major cleanup for a couple days and I'll work out the rest....if I still have it lol, a friend offered to trade me his 89 Honda Shadow 750 for it, his bike runs and looks good...so I might take him up on that.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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oh when i was doing the retorquing I also removed the lifters/rocker arms and collapsed the lifters, that bad knocking/ticking it had going on disappeared, now it's just a typical annoying lifter noise, but it's not bad at all.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Glad you got it going,but dont trade it for a bike.:nono:
fyi You can eat a cam lobe if the lifters are bad and you run em like that for too long especially in a higher rpm ATX.Last edited by nitrofarm; 03-11-2013, 04:20 PM.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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haha, I wonder if that was what happened to babyspire? It had 3 1/2 cam lobes worn down to the point it dug into the rocker arms and broke the rollers off. Since I reset the lifters the noise is really not that loud. I played with them for a minute and they all had resistance on the detent ball after I released the oil.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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This car seems to be running great, I think I finally hit the sweet spot for the timing. Ive put 2 tanks of gas in her, well over 350 miles and I've got almost half a tank left. I drove to marietta first thing this morning, met up with a fellow aspire enthusiast. He doesn't have the internet so he don't get on the forums. Between both of us we might have a full car worth of good panels Haha... My 97 Auto next to his 97 auto, both green!
This evening I drove down to my moms and picked up my neice, roughly a 150 mile round trip. The car does great, does have some wheel vibrations up above 65, below 60 its smooth as silk. I want to blame the bushings. Babyspire has the same issue, new lcas and lca bushings and good tie rod ends, and this car just got a new steering rack AND NEW tie rod ends, they both have a homebrew alignment but they trek straight and corner good, the only thing I have yet to replace IS the front sway bar mounts. I might try to figure out those energy suspension bushings tomorrow and make them work on my aspires.
Also, there is a LOT of road noise from the rear tires, I think its the right rear, I swapped in new tires and I still get it. When I go into a corner to the left it quiets down. I haven't checked air pressure but both tires are doing it..I'm thinking something might be wrong with the axel but a visual inspection came up nil. It's not eating my tire yet so I'm not too concerned.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Originally posted by zoom zoom View PostThis car seems to be running great, I think I finally hit the sweet spot for the timing. Ive put 2 tanks of gas in her, well over 350 miles and I've got almost half a tank left. I drove to marietta first thing this morning, met up with a fellow aspire enthusiast. He doesn't have the internet so he don't get on the forums. Between both of us we might have a full car worth of good panels Haha... My 97 Auto next to his 97 auto, both green!
This evening I drove down to my moms and picked up my neice, roughly a 150 mile round trip. The car does great, does have some wheel vibrations up above 65, below 60 its smooth as silk. I want to blame the bushings. Babyspire has the same issue, new lcas and lca bushings and good tie rod ends, and this car just got a new steering rack AND NEW tie rod ends, they both have a homebrew alignment but they trek straight and corner good, the only thing I have yet to replace IS the front sway bar mounts. I might try to figure out those energy suspension bushings tomorrow and make them work on my aspires.
Also, there is a LOT of road noise from the rear tires, I think its the right rear, I swapped in new tires and I still get it. When I go into a corner to the left it quiets down. I haven't checked air pressure but both tires are doing it..I'm thinking something might be wrong with the axel but a visual inspection came up nil. It's not eating my tire yet so I'm not too concerned.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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I would man, but I got 3 cars I need this done to and 80$ a pop is just insane. If it comes down to no other option, I might get one set..but I doubt it, 80$ is insane for two bushings. I know I'm a 'flip-flopper' the idea of getting OEM/stock parts that just bolt right in is really really nice, but I'm having a really hard time with the idea of spending that much money on two bushings. It's the whole reason I am driving Aspires and not a Vette.Last edited by zoom zoom; 03-14-2013, 06:30 AM.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Originally posted by zoom zoom View PostI would man, but I got 3 cars I need this done to and 80$ a pop is just insane. If it comes down to no other option, I might get one set..but I doubt it, 80$ is insane for two bushings. I know I'm a 'flip-flopper' the idea of getting OEM/stock parts that just bolt right in is really really nice, but I'm having a really hard time with the idea of spending that much money on two bushings. It's the whole reason I am driving Aspires and not a Vette.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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