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  • Finally decided on a setup

    Alright, I had been debating BP all-motor, or BP turbo for weeks.... and when i saw an FE3 twincam swap show up on ebay I almost was tempted to try and be the first one to complete that swap (very similar to BP in a lot of ways, but better), but I have finally finalized my goals for the project.

    I'll be doing a BP swap with G25MR trans, then a custom twin screw (if i can find a small one for cheap enough) or roots style supercharger mounted on the exhaust side ala the Jackson Racing Miata kit. I won't actually be using the JR kit, but using junkyard and ebay parts to assemble something very similar.

    Not really planning on going too crazy at first, just 6 psi (with front mounted air-air intercooler) with an FMU and slightly bigger injectors. The blower will either be mounted above the header or down farther if the upper rad support proves to be too close to allow clearance.

    As far as I know, no one has ever done a supercharged BP in a stiva before, and some might think I'm nuts for doing it, but I thought it would be cool to be the first, and these days an Eaton M45 goes for practically nothing on ebay, and since the rest is essentially just welding, i think it'll be a fun project.

    Ultimate goals are a low 12 second festiva that can still pass NJ inspection and be a backup street car if necessary. In the first incarnation it'll probably only do low 13's but as more goes into it, it will get faster. I'm hoping to have something at least resembling a running car by the end of the summer, and I'll be sure to document it every step of the way for those few that might be interested.

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    have fun with that...imho it would be a whole lot less trouble to use a centrifugal sc instead of a roots. a centrifugal makes less heat and would be so much easier to mount. you could do a semi stealth and mount the charger under the intake manifold above the alternator and you would have alot more room to run the plumbing, without worrying about the charger interfering with the hood/hood latch. it would be a little more expensive, but you can still get a good used vortech on ebay pretty cheap, they only get expensive when you get a whole car kit.

    that being said thats probably what i'll end up running, with a water/air intercooler and a custom aluminum intake box feeding the quad throttle body setup, so lol hey go for the eaton so that i'll still have a unique setup when i get done :twisted:
    Jesus is on my dashboard, But the Devil is under my hood
    1988 ford festiva...in limbo, apartments suck
    1995 Ford Aspire...in limbo, wow i need a garage
    2002 vw jetta wagon 2.0L, neuspeed p-flow 1994 Mercury cougar xr-7 v8, lowered, 18's

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    • #3
      Not a big fan of centrifugals, mainly for driveability reasons. Every dyno that I've ever seen of centrifugal superchargers doesn't show any significant performance increase in either torque or horsepower until 4K, and thats just too laggy for my taste. Granted, the BP can go beyond 7K, so that leaves it with a decent sized powerband, but I prefer the positive displacement charger. Although from looking at it tonight I may have to make the blower part of the intake manifold in order to fit but at the same time from first glance it looks like this would actually leave MORE clearance than the stock manifold anyway so all the better.

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      • #4
        Update: been looking into the mazda millennia supercharger.... easily available in the $100-$150 range and the packaging appears to be perfect for what I need. Also, for those of you that haven't noticed, Corksport is now selling "MAP-ECU" which allows us to delete the VAF and convert the stock ecu to speed-density with a piggyback unit. A lot like Emanage, but it actually works on VAF cars. Wish i had known of this earlier, because now i'm thinking of all motor with quad throttles again... since with the MAP-ECU i could do it fuel injected and use sportbike TB's...

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