F series trans question

[Biglay5150]

After reading the swap guide I have a question. Didnt the 323 also have a 4speed also? Would an 89 323se have a 5speed or 4. I ask because my imput shaft on my white car is leaking so bad that I leave a steam of fluid everywhere I go and I know of a 323se that I could get all the trans parts from but I thought some 323s had 4speeds and Im not sure if this one does or not. Thanks

http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11540

[Damkid]

the F trans i have is a 5-speed and it came from an 88 323

[Biglay5150]

But does the 323 also have a 4speed?????

[Damkid]

i've never heard of a manual 4 speed in a 323, maybe a 4 speed auto

[Biglay5150]

See I wasnt sure because I saw a 323 on craigslist the other day and it said it was a 4speed. I need a trans so I figured I would upgrade.

[sasquatch]

i think they did have a 4 speed in them but that was before they where called 323's.... i think... i could be wrong tho...

[iceracerdude]

I know the answer to this! I've got a 89 323, and as a result of that, I also got a chilton's service manual. The 4 speed as well as a 5 speed and an auto was avail in the 323 in 86 only (this was the first year for the 323 and the b6), after that just a 5 speed (m-5) or the auto. This book I've got covers 78 thru 89 mazdas, but my 323 has a 4 speed in it (the m-4), obviously as the result of a replacement by the previous owner at some point. The gear ratios are the same for both tranaxles, with just the absence of a fifth gear! and I'm getting 30 to 32 mpg at this point. The epa estimates for the 323's are 26 to 30 for the 4 speed and 28 to 33 for the 5 speed, so I can't complain. I did just recently adjust my tps, so I'm looking forward to a slight increase in the near future.

[pyrothehitman]

off topic...i like those wheels on ur blue festy.

[Biglay5150]

Well I got an F series 5speed trans today out of that 89 323. For $50 I got the trans,axles,mounts,good luk clutch,flywheel,starter,plate between eng and trans and the entire shifter assem. Now on to the fab.

[sasquatch]

sorry to thread jack but... will the trans and axles from a 90-94 323 work? or does it have to be the first gen 323's? i forget what year they start...

[Biglay5150]

According to the chart it is the same trans.

[sasquatch]

but what about the axles? its says 88-89 323 ones... or what ever years they where made lol... has anyone put 90-94 323 axles in there festiva?

[Damkid]

90-94 323's were based off of the BG chassis, the festiva is based off the BF chassis like the 88-89 323's

[sasquatch]

so they wont fit? im guessing they are too long... right? but just to make sure... will the 90-94 323 trans will work?

[nonamekid]

The 90-94 trans will work. The axles will not work because they are longer.