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  • #31
    Originally posted by paulwall1987 View Post
    Anyone ever thought of using motorcycle pistons. I know the honda valkyrie has a 71mm bore but a 61mm stroke. Hell it even has a 9.8:1 compression ratio. Anyone think these would work?
    The piston diameter might be ok, but what about the wrist pin diameter or the connecting rod width?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Festy46 View Post
      The piston diameter might be ok, but what about the wrist pin diameter or the connecting rod width?

      .

      Among many other variables. Weight (you'd have to balance the rotating assembly)

      Compression, valve clearance. etc.......Too much $$$$$$$$$
      -Greg
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      • #33
        Originally posted by 19festiva90 View Post
        b6 is not a bad deal that is also how much i paid for the car. but is putting the the heavier motor afect the fun to drive factor as far as cornering?
        The B6 is actually lighter

        and as other have already said yeah the motorcycle pistons might fit the bore but as far as attaching to anything else that would probably be custom. Once again more money.

        The Bp is a good swap too.
        It's a good thing you don't read the stickies, you might of learned something.Poverty produces creativity

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        • #34
          I must admit this revival gave me a good chuckle. Anyone who knows anything knows a straight up engine swap is going to net you the best HP results for the least amount of cash. Unless youve recently joined and havent done ANY reading of the stickies or used the "Search" function AT ALL since joining. To even consider doing something custom with the B3 automatically negates the whole purpose of a Festiva. "Cheap Fun"
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          • #35
            -Caleb
            Originally posted by cracked.com on the M203 w/ M433 HEDP
            So, for about the same price as a fully-loaded 1993 Ford Festiva, you could also wield the power to obliterate a small village in the blink of an eye.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MONSOON View Post
              I must admit this revival gave me a good chuckle. Anyone who knows anything knows a straight up engine swap is going to net you the best HP results for the least amount of cash. Unless youve recently joined and havent done ANY reading of the stickies or used the "Search" function AT ALL since joining. To even consider doing something custom with the B3 automatically negates the whole purpose of a Festiva. "Cheap Fun"
              I usually agree with you, but I disagree on this one. Festivas aren't just about cheap fun. They're also about being different and original. i have to admit, I've been eying a set of Yamaha polysherical pistons I have...

              Look at EVOGUN. I know that conversion wasn't cheap. Matt's BPT car took a significant investment. In fact, me and the 'fearless leader' (25Horseplay) have discussed many times what we could do with a B3.

              I think the point here is that I don't feel there are any real rules regarding these cars. Just have fun with them!
              Jim DeAngelis

              kittens give Morbo gas!!



              Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
              Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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              • #37
                But he did say:
                Originally posted by paulwall1987 View Post
                not necessarily. but would they work? as long as they're the 71mm bore right? honda 650r use them as well so it is looking tempting.
                To
                Originally posted by eurotiva View Post
                It's much easier/cheaper to bolt in another motor.
                I think paul is saying it might be cheaper/easier to use the motorcycle pistons. I disagree, but who knows they might be the perfect fit.

                So either way you have to remove/install an engine, but with the motorcycle pistons you have to have custom goodies made up and so on.

                Anyways lets not make this another Eye of Ra build up :p
                It's a good thing you don't read the stickies, you might of learned something.Poverty produces creativity

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                • #38
                  ^^^ HA!! Poor Joe, we pick on him SO much!!!

                  True, using m/c pistons can be very costly. Lots of factors need to be considered; pin hieght, pin dia, valve clearance, chamber clearance, etc.... Definately not a bolt-in procedure. Lots of machining and custom, one-off parts may be involved.
                  Jim DeAngelis

                  kittens give Morbo gas!!



                  Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
                  Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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                  • #39
                    Good points Jim! Good points!
                    Search Master - Honorary Member of Midwest Festiva Inc., Gulf Coast Chapter

                    Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
                    - Unknown
                    I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck. - Serge A. Storms

                    If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style.
                    - Quentin Crisp

                    God, please save me from your followers!
                    - Bumper Sticker

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                    • #40
                      What ever happened to Eye Of Ra? I wonder if he ever did that 300 hp B3.
                      Festiva: Because even my dog can build a Honda.
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                      • #41
                        ^ huh 300hp 1.3, this isnt a starlet how is that possible?
                        -90 festiva - bp swap "relentless" (thanks matt) aspire swap, pacesetter, underdrive pulley
                        -90 festiva - surf blue (undetermined destiny) wanna keep but wifey says noooooooo

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                        • #42
                          Ehhh look at the Volkswagen Beetles! The 1.3 in ours has just as much room for improvement as there 25hp etc. They had to start somewhere also!
                          91 rusty Festiva 260k

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                          • #43
                            My guess. Probably not. He hasnt been here in almost 18 months. And every promise of pics of build, trophies won, etc. Havent been followed through.
                            Search Master - Honorary Member of Midwest Festiva Inc., Gulf Coast Chapter

                            Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
                            - Unknown
                            I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck. - Serge A. Storms

                            If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style.
                            - Quentin Crisp

                            God, please save me from your followers!
                            - Bumper Sticker

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                            • #44
                              I wanted to know more about that "15 angle" valve job.
                              Festiva: Because even my dog can build a Honda.
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                              '90 L. B8ME/Kia Rio 5 speed. Rio/Aspire suspension swap. :-D
                              '81 Mustang. Inline 6, Automatic.
                              '95 Eagle Summit Wagon. 4G64 Powered.

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                              • #45
                                if you want a fast car.... buy fast one

                                or build one


                                yvan

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