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  • G25MR quest

    These cars came with the G25MR,but are the case's different then lets say a EGT? .Basically can we use them in a festy/aspire? I'm assuming they use a slave cyl Hyd clutch. But other than that. Can I look at these cars for a donor 5 speed? Also assuming I need the short shaft from the Capri.I'm just trying to find a larger "pool" of cars for donors. Thanks-

    G25MR - 1993-1997 Ford Probe, 1993-1997 Mazda MX6, 1993-2002 Mazda 626
    G15MR - 2001-2003 Mazda Protege, Protege 5, MP3, MSP

    The 2003 G15MR will have the most recent shift fork and selector hub revisions compared to previous versions, so this is the best one out of them.
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  • #2
    Wait wait wait..your saying that a standard transmission out of a 2.0L mazda 626 will bolt up to a b3? And work? I mean if it bolts to a b6 and a b6 bolts to a stock 5speed............. So the cd4e auto transmission I have in my 99 626 would also bolt up to a B3 block? I dunno man...i dunno... There's a good 99 626 motor in the JY, are you saying i could drop that in my aspire and it would bolt in except for engine mounts?
    Last edited by zoom zoom; 10-02-2011, 04:41 AM.
    2008 Kia Rio- new beater
    1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
    1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
    1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
    1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
    1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
    1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
    1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



    "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nitrofarm View Post
      G25MR - 1993-1997 Ford Probe, 1993-1997 Mazda MX6, 1993-2002 Mazda 626
      G15MR - 2001-2003 Mazda Protege, Protege 5, MP3, MSP
      No bueno hombre.

      Anything that didnt come with a B-series runs a different bellhousing and will not bolt up.

      The trans ARE g-series, but the housing castings are completely off and setup to run the KL/FE engine patterns.

      The ONLY cars with trans that will work in a festiva and are G-series are:

      1.8L equipped Kia Sephia, possibly the smaller 1.6L equipped Rio?
      1990-1994 Mazda Protege LX
      1991-1995 Ford Escort GT
      1991-1995 Ford Escort LX-E
      1991-1995 Mercury Tracer LTS
      1991-1992 Mercury Capri XR2
      1988-1989 Mazda 323GT

      There are others that use the F-series trans such as the SOHC protege's (DX) and the non-XR2 capri's, they are usable transmission, they just wont hold up to quite as much abuse as the G-series will.

      The kia's may be the best bet at G-series trans in the future, considering even after they stopped using mazda engines they continued to use the g-series transmission until they stopped using the Hyundai 1.8L (which looks a damn lot like a mazda BP, but isnt).
      Last edited by IdealSociety; 10-02-2011, 09:14 AM.
      1992 Festiva... BP-T, Escort G5MR, no crossmember, aspire brakes, Megasquirt, Toyota COP's, coilovers and 6 puck SPEC clutch!

      T3/T4 Turbo Power! G5MR and BP since '04!

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      • #4
        Ok Thanks I knew it was to good to be true. But at least if you have a good trans case.You good use the internals from one of the fore mentioned newer vehicles correct?
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        • #5
          AAAAWW WHAT? Im so heartbroken, you had my hopes up! Eh those 2.0 motors don't have much pep anyway..
          2008 Kia Rio- new beater
          1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
          1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
          1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
          1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
          1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
          1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
          1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



          "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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          • #6
            ^^ for real... the FS engines are inferior to BP's!
            89 Festiva L Carby 4 Speed... RIP. Evicted and Scrapped. I HATE MY FAMILY
            94 aspire 3 door Red -- Former BP, V6 KLDE swap underway! RIP... Rotted and Flooded out...
            2012 Mazda 2 Touring 5 Speed... It's Very, Very, Very green... Daily Driver
            1964 Barracuda 360 V8 Push Button 904 Auto, New Money Pit

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            • #7
              I know, I was really disappointed with this mazda, it does ok I guess, good enough for a kid hauler anyway. Woulda been sweet tho if it was that easy to swap in my aspire tho lol, I bet I could get that 2.0 out of the junk yard for dirt cheap, it's only been sitting about 4 or 5 months.
              2008 Kia Rio- new beater
              1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
              1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
              1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
              1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
              1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
              1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
              1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



              "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IdealSociety View Post
                The kia's may be the best bet at G-series trans in the future, considering even after they stopped using mazda engines they continued to use the g-series transmission until they stopped using the Hyundai 1.8L (which looks a damn lot like a mazda BP, but isnt).
                kia sephia I guess? which years? are they 100% compatible with B engines? I might be shopping for a tranny so a fresh kia looks like a great option
                rusEfi - DIY ECU
                93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by russian View Post
                  kia sephia I guess? which years? are they 100% compatible with B engines? I might be shopping for a tranny so a fresh kia looks like a great option
                  Yes but you cant find em anywhere.
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                  • #10
                    So the Kia Sephia 94-97 G series are a G series correct?

                    Are they a cable trans?

                    and will they work in a festiva?

                    and you need the axles right? and one of them is thicker?
                    Last edited by M3NTAL; 11-03-2011, 12:24 AM.
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                    • #11
                      got this from CP


                      This is what you need to use the Kia 96-97 tranny

                      1) Kia Axels.
                      2) Kia, Protege DOHC or 89 GTX (B6T Turbo engine) flywheel. They all use the same clutch. The Kia flywheel is heavier, the GTX is lighter.
                      3) Kia throw out bearing
                      3) Kia Slave Cylinder
                      4) Kia tranny mounts bases. All three. You can use the Mazda mounts they are same as the Kia.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by M3NTAL View Post
                        So the Kia Sephia 94-97 G series are a G series correct?

                        Are they a cable trans?

                        and will they work in a festiva?

                        and you need the axles right? and one of them is thicker?
                        They are Hydro-but its fairly easy to make a bracket to convert to cable. See Damkids. Thats what I'm doing with my G series. (I found a Gm25r hydro)
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                        • #13
                          Found a Tranny

                          Is it safe to assume that if my G series is Hydro.It therefore will be equiped with 3.55 gears? This is what I gather from the tranny stickies....Thanks-
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                          • #14
                            Mfactory Diff

                            Ok here's my next thought. I would like to run this diff with my Bp/G series swap.
                            Are the 02 Kia Rio axles's 23 7/8's" and 34 5/8's" and are they 26/24 spline count?
                            If the outboard spline count is not 24 on the kia axle .Couldn't I transfer a 24 tripod onto the Kia axle?
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