Dickmeyer Automotive Engineering Race Header B3/B6

[mattdickmeyer]

Was wondering if this header would work on a 96 aspire? Seeing as its as the b3 as well. I currently have a tri-y that was recently bought and installed but I don't think it is as fully designed as yours. Maybe in the future I can buy one and sell my current one. I like the long tube setup. How is the low end torque with your header? I lost a small amount of low end with my tri-y and the torque peak shifted to 4300 rpms.

I see no reason why this header would not fit the Aspire perfectly. I build them with plenty of room around the oil pan to accommodate any clearance issues. Your loss of torque with the tri-y is exactly what i found on the dyno while developing a header for you guys. You will be impressed with the improvement & performance thru the entire power band with my header.

[rmoltis]

It would be nice if a flex pipe was installed at the collector on the design . if anything you could have an exhaust shop shift your cat further back. It only cost me $80 to shift it back and re weld a new flange in position. But my header came with a flex pipe at the collector. And you don't need a high flow cat the OEM one flows great with an exhaust setup. I have a 1.75" cat back exhaust and it flows more than I even need. I would save that money for other things IMO.

[blkfordsedan]

For the extra money, you could probably buy an aftermarket ball-n-socket flange and a hi-flow cat. Any muffler shop should be able to hook it up to the factory mid-pipe without issue. Plus, you'd have a much better performing system. Putting the OEM cat behind the header would be like smoking and not inhaling, lol.

On second thought, maybe the exhaust shops around you wouldn't touch it...even here in rural nowhere, some shops won't mess with any non-stock from the cat forward.

[Pu241]

this will mount up to any B3 (8v) head, but you must supply a flexpipe and flange to the cat.

Matt, would it be possible to extend the pipe and put a flange on it to direct mate it to a OEM cat arrangement.
I know it will cost, but I like the direct bolt up solution.
Not to mention I do not weld and don't know anyone professional or otherwise in this area that I could have this done.

[Pu241]

To be honest, I tested that over 3 years ago & didn't keep the file. As I recall header was worth around 8 HP on a stock Festiva & around 14.5 HP with head work. I will be doing some testing on some parts that I am developing at the present & bought a stock '91 Festiva to test with. So I will be able to start from scratch with base line numbers all the way to highly modified.

Were those gains with cat and OEM exhaust, or modified exhaust.
Very interested as I need to replace an exhaust manifold and down pipe anyway!

[FestYboy]

this will mount up to any B3 (8v) head, but you must supply a flexpipe and flange to the cat.

[rmoltis]

Was wondering if this header would work on a 96 aspire? Seeing as its as the b3 as well. I currently have a tri-y that was recently bought and installed but I don't think it is as fully designed as yours. Maybe in the future I can buy one and sell my current one. I like the long tube setup. How is the low end torque with your header? I lost a small amount of low end with my tri-y and the torque peak shifted to 4300 rpms.

[TominMO]

Thx 4 the clarification Arty!

[FestYboy]

that's what i'm here for lol!

[Aaronbrook37]

Aaron, you have that very wrong. the links you have posted are for 2 very different engines, the first one is for a first gen B6 or B3 (8v), the second you have posted is for a B6-ME (16v) or B6D/T (like in your sig). the first and second gen B6 exhaust ports are identical in shape and position BUT there is a differance in that the 2 outer top bolt holes are positioned slightly differently on the second gen. It would be a matter of just elongating those 2 holes on the header flange and then the header would bolt up.

My mistake. Thanks for correcting me. I was under the impression that all of the second generation B6's were of the 16v / DOHC variety. Good to know!

[FestYboy]

Negative. 2nd gen B6's have square ports all lined up in a row, whereas early B6's have rounded ports that are curvy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fel-Pro-MS93416-Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket-Set-/140903005980?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AMazda%7CModel%3A323&hash=item20ce793f1c&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fel-Pro-MS94...793d2a&vxp=mtr

Aaron, you have that very wrong. the links you have posted are for 2 very different engines, the first one is for a first gen B6 or B3 (8v), the second you have posted is for a B6-ME (16v) or B6D/T (like in your sig). the first and second gen B6 exhaust ports are identical in shape and position BUT there is a differance in that the 2 outer top bolt holes are positioned slightly differently on the second gen. It would be a matter of just elongating those 2 holes on the header flange and then the header would bolt up.

[Aaronbrook37]

Matt, do these headers work on both gen1 and gen2 B6 heads? I.E. are the bolt patterns and the exhaust ports the same on both heads?

Negative. 2nd gen B6's have square ports all lined up in a row, whereas early B6's have rounded ports that are curvy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fel-Pro-MS93416-Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket-Set-/140903005980?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AMazda%7CModel%3A323&hash=item20ce793f1c&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fel-Pro-MS94532-Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket-Set-/140903005482?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AMazda%7CModel%3A323&hash=item20ce793d2a&vxp=mtr

[TominMO]

Matt, do these headers work on both gen1 and gen2 B6 heads? I.E. are the bolt patterns and the exhaust ports the same on both heads?

[blkfordsedan]

Lord knows I've spent more on things that made less HP. Heck, some guys drop more than that on long tubes or even an intake/TB/plenum for their 2V Mustangs and get less in terms of % increase. Especially if they pay some one to drop the K-member to install the headers. They complain that they didnt see much in terms of peak HP on the dyno and wish they would have saved all the money for a S/C. But, that's how it goes with supporting mods and bolt-ons.
Another thing to consider is HP gain throughout the entire curve. 8HP peak gain may not be much, but if it builds even a little through the entire RPM curve, the car will be faster.

I remember when you could buy a set of Cyclone headers for under $100. They did the job, but they were far from being well engineered. The primaries were usually too big and the lengths were whatever was easiest to fit and cheapest to build. The collectors were terrible, just 4 tubes stuck in whatever size tube they would fit. Usually way to big and no fire cone or thought of flow design.

[mattdickmeyer]

I appreciate it very much. One thing for all to remember, and this applies to many things,....IF ITS CHEAP OR FREE, IT OFTEN HAS LITTLE TO NO VALUE, YOU STILL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. What I build for you guys is engineered to have the best functionality, yet come in at the best possible price. A performance shop like mine comes few & far between, when you order a header or a ported head or whatever it may be, it is done here by myself personally, for you the customer. To me that ads a personal touch & you know what you are getting. You can't just call up SUMMIT & order anything you need for your car, maybe I am a gluten for punishment, but for some reason, I am drawn to this cause.