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    I was wondering if the was a MAF out there that I could wire or plug in, in place of the stock VAF air box on my 89. I would like to for the ease of bolting on an intake instead of having to fudge something with the VAF box. Thanks.
    '89 L Charcoal
    '89 L Red
    '91 Ranger
    '65 F100

    Sepmer Fi

  • #2
    Not familiar with the 89 boxes but I've grabbed every EFI (90-93) box I could get hold of over the past few years.

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    • #3
      No. Mass Air is a completely different engine management system. You could convert to MAF in theory, but it would require a ton of work. The VAF works good and is not a restriction on these cars....Nothing to gain there. But, it is ugly.
      Brian

      93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
      04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
      62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

      1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
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      • #4
        that's what I was afraid of. I guess I really didn't think of the physics difference there. Looks like I'll keep on keepin' on and see if I can fab something out of my VAF.
        '89 L Charcoal
        '89 L Red
        '91 Ranger
        '65 F100

        Sepmer Fi

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        • #5
          I started working on a project a couple of years ago, although there wasn't a lot of interested so I discontinued it. http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ersion-project
          Last edited by NicholasJackson; 02-17-2013, 10:51 AM.
          93 Ford Festiva WA (project car)
          98 Ford Festiva WF (aspire)(parts car)
          98 "Gloria" Toyota Corolla AE101 (daily driver)

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          • #6
            At one time, Rocketman (member) was selling adapters that would bolt to the VAF meter and allow you to install a cone filter. You can also get cheap ones on eBay.
            Brian

            93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
            04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
            62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

            1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
            Not enough time or money for any of them

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            • #7
              what did you come up with on that project? Were you successful?
              '89 L Charcoal
              '89 L Red
              '91 Ranger
              '65 F100

              Sepmer Fi

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              • #8
                I'm a Software Engineering major and I built two prototypes. One using the Hotwire MAF and the other using the Vortex MAF. The first release was pretty cool and promising but yeah I didn't take it any further. At the time my festiva was still carb so I didn't bother.
                93 Ford Festiva WA (project car)
                98 Ford Festiva WF (aspire)(parts car)
                98 "Gloria" Toyota Corolla AE101 (daily driver)

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                • #9
                  Well if you get any more info on it I would be all ears and willing to try it myself.
                  '89 L Charcoal
                  '89 L Red
                  '91 Ranger
                  '65 F100

                  Sepmer Fi

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                  • #10
                    I'm interested too, depending on what price tag is attached to that 30 second change over.
                    Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                    Old Blue- New Tricks
                    91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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                    • #11
                      Sure. Ill have to find some of my old files. I just recently moved to Germany and don't live in Australia anymore where I started the project. The project was cheap. I only spent 200 aud developing it. This included buying mafs and vafs breadboards and components. The devices itself not including the maf was only about 10 aud dollars of components.
                      93 Ford Festiva WA (project car)
                      98 Ford Festiva WF (aspire)(parts car)
                      98 "Gloria" Toyota Corolla AE101 (daily driver)

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                      • #12
                        Anything happen with this? I would still like a MAF swap that's affordable. A MAF doesn't care how it's mounted. Upside down, turned however you like, and pointed literally however you need it, and once it's mounted, gravity and G-forces don't affect it. And then there's the looks thing and it being more compact.

                        So, bump for news.
                        Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                        Old Blue- New Tricks
                        91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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                        • #13
                          Oh, and just as a side note, there is an item that does this already available for a while now. However support seems to be nil for it. Forum link is dead and no recent comments on the item page.

                          Last edited by sketchman; 05-22-2013, 07:24 AM.
                          Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                          Old Blue- New Tricks
                          91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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                          • #14
                            Are those the guys in NZ or Aus that developed that originally? What do they do for the fuel pump switch?

                            I'm a big fan of just getting rid of any type of VAF/MAF http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...ase-p-128.html
                            Basic MS kit is cheaper, lol. $157+shipping
                            Last edited by Rocketman; 05-22-2013, 08:28 AM.
                            1991 Mercury Capri XR2 "GTXR2" BPT Swapped AWD Conversion

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                            • #15
                              you can just buy an adapter plate for air filter and then not more air box.
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