DAE Max MPG CAMSHAFT

[mikeyjd]

Yes.
I'm sure there are more variables.
Intake would also be part of it.
I'm curious what kind of mpgs he could squeeze out of one of these if that was the customers ultimate goal.

I think this would be impossible to answer with a hard fast number. With the biggest factor % wise in fuel economy being driving style, it would be misleading to say "you will get xx mpg increase with x mods". It would be possible to quantify the % increase expected from a given mod (albeit still quite difficult), but again real world factors are likely to provide a huge range in each persons experience. I think the best we can ask for is for Matt to produce us the parts that are designed for a particular application and put them to the test for ourselves to see if we can get real world results. He already has a client with the mpg cam grind reporting 7mpg increase over what he was getting before (although this might be way off depending on that person and their records/testing parameters). Matt is providing theoretically optimal parts for us. Now it is up to us to show what they can do in each of our situations

[rmoltis]

Yes.
I'm sure there are more variables.
Intake would also be part of it.
I'm curious what kind of mpgs he could squeeze out of one of these if that was the customers ultimate goal.

[FestYboy]

^ i'm thinking a different intake would also be part of the equation and you'd want to get away from the batch fired injector control and make it sequential as well.

[rmoltis]

Hey matt I'm curious.
If someone wanted to do a full economy build through you

And say got this cam grind and fpr and balanced injectors to start.

The header you offer is a lil more for power.

Would you be able to offer that person a longtube setup to help match the cam
(We already know you can do anything for a price)
Let's say for example the freeway is the highest speed they travel 60mph
Since more than that really starts declining mpgs with air resistance.
Would a differently tuned header help enhance this cam grind.

My car at 60 is at 2636 rpms.
So a tuned header say peak torque at 2600
With the mpg cam
And fpr
And balanced injectors.
Along with the high compression piston kit.

Would this make for an ultimate mpg car?
I'm just asking what some people are thinking.
I'm not trying to get you to make a new kit or anything
but rather how much it would help enhance mpgs.
Compared to a power build.

How many mpgs do you think you could get
out of a full economy build for a customer?

[mikeyjd]

Since you have elected to be the Guinea Pig on this and are keeping meticulous records please keep us (and much more so Matt) informed. It would be a 'poke in the eye' of regulators if someone (ie FordFestiva.com) could prove that old tech can readily (and much cheaper) compete with high tech in achieving good gas mileage.

I think they must already be well aware of these things. It is and always has been about money and lining the pockets of corrupt politicians.

[FestYboy]

^ Matt can build anything you need. it'd be best to call him to express what you have in mind and what your requirements are so that he can formulate a plan specificaly for you and your goals.

[KingFish]

Any plans for a B8 regrind for increased NA power? Just let me know what you would need from me!

[mattdickmeyer]

With this cam there are no guinea pigs, no guessing, no experimenting , customer ordered cam, I built it and it worked as designed ... period , been doing the this for over 20 years.

[sketchman]

^The system relies on the sheeple not revolting and supporting it, and the sheeple rely on the system. Sucks, but the reality is the only reason a higher class of people exist is because of the class under them. Start pulling out legs, and the table gets mighty short.

Just another method of bleeding it off the people and back into the system.

[Bert]

If we can prove that, then the question becomes: Why is there a high-tech solution at all? Answer: more complexity = more maintenance = more profit.

Truth be known I too wonder when all this sophistication and complexity is going to level off if only for the sake of economics. Does everyone out there blindly endure needlessly expensive repairs and planned obsolescence? We can only hope that one day the sheeple will revolt.

[TominMO]

It would be a 'poke in the eye' of regulators if someone (ie FordFestiva.com) could prove that old tech can readily (and much cheaper) compete with high tech in achieving good gas mileage.

If we can prove that, then the question becomes: Why is there a high-tech solution at all? Answer: more complexity = more maintenance = more profit.

[Bert]

I'll be getting mine in July hopefully and doing rigorous before and after tests ^

Since you have elected to be the Guinea Pig on this and are keeping meticulous records please keep us (and much more so Matt) informed. It would be a 'poke in the eye' of regulators if someone (ie FordFestiva.com) could prove that old tech can readily (and much cheaper) compete with high tech in achieving good gas mileage.

[mattdickmeyer]

I will answer your questions shortly, have a ton going on at the moment.

[mikeyjd]

I really don't know what kind of market there might be for such a cam especially since most forum members start off with these gas misers and then gradually devote all their time towards swapping in "big blocks", or aspiring to some other version of more power. I personally don't have any power or fuel economy complaints about B3 Festys (only because I drove severely under-powered Austin 850 Minis for quite awhile 40 years ago). A $180 carefully designed specialty cam regrind is going to be a bargain no matter how you look at (even if it does ultimately save on fuel!) but shipping and handling and import duties etc is going to impact on all this. And Festy owners (from what I've experienced and seen over the past 3 years) by and large are so GD cheap they squeak when they walk.
Matt, I have a lo-mile roller rocker B3 on the go (for assembly and install) at the moment and if some proof of your R&D and manufacture bears fruit I will be happy to order one of these if only to support your ongoing efforts to make our road-faring go-karts show even better than OEM fuel economy numbers.

I'll be getting mine in July hopefully and doing rigorous before and after tests ^

[Bert]

I really don't know what kind of market there might be for such a cam especially since most forum members start off with these gas misers and then gradually devote all their time towards swapping in "big blocks", or aspiring to some other version of more power. I personally don't have any power or fuel economy complaints about B3 Festys (only because I drove severely under-powered Austin 850 Minis for quite awhile 40 years ago). A $180 carefully designed specialty cam regrind is going to be a bargain no matter how you look at (even if it does ultimately save on fuel!) but shipping and handling and import duties etc is going to impact on all this. And Festy owners (from what I've experienced and seen over the past 3 years) by and large are so GD cheap they squeak when they walk.
Matt, I have a lo-mile roller rocker B3 on the go (for assembly and install) at the moment and if some proof of your R&D and manufacture bears fruit I will be happy to order one of these if only to support your ongoing efforts to make our road-faring go-karts show even better than OEM fuel economy numbers.