b3 intake plumbing

[koRnhead]

Yes, a second pump is always needed in that situation.......and, while we are far far off the OP topic. The rear turbo vs normal manifold mounted system is really a debate that has no end. They both have positives and negatives. Mostly its a packaging thing. Or a because I wanted to thing.

[jawbraeka]

Is there a way to determine what is "better"?

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[koRnhead]

I suppose if you have major packaging restraints in your engine bay, or have no way to make or get a manifold.

[jawbraeka]

I was meaning in regards to the performance, as in what is "better".


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[koRnhead]

Well, if you are talking adding a turbo to a non turbo'd car......I would say its about even, if you go rear turbo on something like say a turbo DSM, I would call you a retard.

[jawbraeka]

No I was meaning between front and rear mounted turbos?

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[sketchman]

See euro's posts above. Apparently it does have it's performance advantages. OP did mention a turbo install so it's not THAT off topic.

I still don't see how it would be an issue that close to the oil pan. Oil is flowing in. It's going to take the path of least resistance, right? Wouldn't that be the drain? I understand when it's in the back of the vehicle that the LONG drain line would cause resistance, but we're talking a few inches between the turbo and oil pan. IDK.

[jawbraeka]

All good. Thanks

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[navdoc101]

I still don't get why RT. If you want a turbo out of the way and close to the ground, for whatever reason, replace the bend in the downpipe with the turbo. No secondary oil system, no LONG intake pipe, and you still get out of messing with the manifold. I know, I know, the fastest Festiva in the world is RT. Is that because it's RT? No.

Just my opinion.

I wonder why they put rear turbos on corvettes? Maybe becaue they are more effecent & take less room in the engine bay? They MUST be retarded to do that to a corvette.

[navdoc101]

Does anyone have input on my OP, i just want aftermarket intake tube for now.

I think I answered your question at the begining of the thread. & there is no aftermarket intake like K&N, Air Raid , etc. You can get the ones you have to assemble yourself from seperate parts.

[jawbraeka]

What about ramflo?

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[sketchman]

I wonder why they put rear turbos on corvettes? Maybe becaue they are more effecent & take less room in the engine bay? They MUST be retarded to do that to a corvette.

How is that related to a Festiva? And when did I say it was retarded? Euro explained why he did it, and that it ended up having surprise benefits for him. That was really enough. To each his own. Never called anyone retarded for doing what they want.

Don't really understand where this stuff starts from. It's weird.

[koRnhead]

Again....if you mount a turbo BELOW the oil pan.....oil will not flow up to the pan, it will just sit in the turbo causing massive damage to the turbo and motor as it wont be flowing through the system. Its just that simple. you need a pump to push it there.

And the turbo is the same manifold or rear mounted, so again the positives are more about packaging and other restraints, or simply because you want to do it.

[jawbraeka]

Would a check valve, aimed only to return the oil to the sump be able to assist holding oil pressure towards the sump? In other words between gear changes and periods where pressure might drop or would it constrict oil flow that is what you could consider "necessary back flow" such as gear changes.. If that makes sense.

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[koRnhead]

You run a low pressure pump, just to move the oil back, the turbo does not need high pressure, just oil for lubrication.