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  • #16
    f and g series have different mounts. The g series is bigger in every way.
    Everyone here is glad for a new way to do it. Just wait to post until you have actual facts and numbers in front of you. If you need dimensions go to your parts store, order it, measure it, then return it for a refund.



    Originally posted by skeeters_keeper View Post
    Ditto to that. I'm all about doing research and I'm glad to see you enthusiastic - but have you looked at how other people have done it before? if so you will clearly see that a lot of the ideas you post won't work.

    I think you have a little more learning to do before you can do teaching! The kind of learning that comes from getting dirty and spinning a wrench, doing a simple swap or two then moving up the line. You'll quickly learn what works and what doesn't; stuff you can't learn from a computer.
    X2
    From some things you've posted it seems like you haven't worked on cars much.
    Better Than Nothing Racing

    Way too many cars

    :woc:

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    • #17
      Originally posted by shorestiva View Post
      order it, measure it, then return it for a refund.
      Highly unethical.
      Don't do anything you wouldn't want done to yourself.
      1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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      • #18
        Can't say anything I haven't already said to you Gaz.

        You need to do your homework and post once you have a result.
        What you've done here is essentially give everyone who reads this YOUR homework.

        I'll get you the measurements you're after for the g series.

        If it were me, I would delete this thread until you've completed your homework.
        1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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        • #19
          The way I look at it is much simpler that you guys are. He has done some homework for me. I don't see why everyone has to trash talk all the time. If you don't like his threads then don't click on 'em. I don't usually click on them either but to me this sounded interesting. NOW, the next time I go to a junkyard, I have someplace to start rather then searching every vehicle on the lot.

          It's not that bigga' deal guys. Just like cable TV. If you don't like Duck Dynasty don't tune in. So if you don't like Jawbreaka don't click.
          -Bryant

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          • #20
            Problem is that if you were to search every single vehicle in the lot, you would find that a good majority LOOK like it'll work. I've done this and its annoyingly deceiving.

            If we're going to keep this thread alive. I suggest that we make it a engine mount comparison thread.

            When we hit the Jy, take a tape measure and a camera and post pics and measurements of mounts that look like they could work.

            Forming a database of mounts is useful.

            But pissing in the wind with mounts that look similar without measurements is not.

            Let's all contribute to make this a useful thread.
            1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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            • #21
              ^understandable and I agree.
              -Bryant

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aaronbrook37 View Post
                Do this. Then maybe it works. Then maybe post it. Then maybe sticky it.
                This ^^

                Until there's hard evidence of something working, why should it be a sticky

                1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
                1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
                2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

                1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

                If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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                • #23
                  I think its best that this never be more than a database. Once we come up with something conclusive we can create a locked article that can be stickied with all the various options found to work with different motor/gearbox combinations.

                  This thread should be for the purpose of compiling a database only. The more people that have (constructive) input the better.

                  If no one is willing to contribute, then it should just be deleted.

                  I'm happy to contribute.
                  Last edited by moz; 03-04-2014, 05:55 PM.
                  1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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                  • #24
                    Listen.. I wasn't trying to annoy people at all.

                    I was saying simply due to the shape of the mount, the dipping section of the mount (the offset) and the fact that bolt holes all look like they are seated into the roughly the right positions, I saw that these could possibly be contenders for an upgrade..

                    I know I didn't get information specific about the mounts.. And said that "they look like they will"..but at the same time, I never stated that they would fit.. Also, I said they were guestimates..

                    I agree that forming a mount database would be really ideal as some mounts are "multi use" but advertised as one major brand /fitment..

                    I have also deduced that other car companies seem to use similar style mounting patterns to the ones we use for our transmissions..

                    Like I said.. I will put information as I find it.

                    Sent from the depths of hell.
                    Last edited by jawbraeka; 03-04-2014, 06:08 PM.
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                    Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                    Avg Economy:
                    Highway - 7.32L/100km
                    City - yet to be determined.

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                    • #25
                      It doesn't have to be.. I was hoping this thread was going in a different direction as in be a sticky.. The idea was to let it float like my other thread and then sink like my other mounting thread regarding e-series b6 mount.

                      Sent from the depths of hell.
                      Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                      Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                      Avg Economy:
                      Highway - 7.32L/100km
                      City - yet to be determined.

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                      • #26
                        I'll comment and say I'm in for a mount information / upgrade thread/spreadsheet/database.

                        I'll also say as a good point of reference to have, would be some clearly labelled pictures of the mounting areas for each transmission set in order to be able to "nominate" specific transmission set/s as well as knowing our working range with the mount and bolting positions as well as the measurements to use as a guideline for finding newer mounts.

                        I'll also say, that perhaps instead of doing the g series, perhaps we could organize it for all e.f and g series transmissions.

                        Sent from the depths of hell.
                        Last edited by jawbraeka; 03-04-2014, 06:25 PM.
                        Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                        Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                        Avg Economy:
                        Highway - 7.32L/100km
                        City - yet to be determined.

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                        • #27
                          OK.. If I could have the title changed to just state 'B6 and E/F/G Series factory mount alternatives' would be a good start to bring this whole discussion down to a simmer rather than a boil.. I would appreciate that a lot.

                          Sent from the depths of hell.
                          Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                          Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                          Avg Economy:
                          Highway - 7.32L/100km
                          City - yet to be determined.

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                          • #28
                            I think you should put a big focus on the Rio box.
                            G series boxes are becoming harder to find.
                            The Rio box will be readily available for another 10-15 years.
                            Its the way of the future.
                            From what I've seen, its neither a g series or an f series. So if someone who has worked with one could chime in and clarify, I would appreciate it as I'm very curious to find out
                            1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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                            • #29


                              Here is a picture of a mount I found that I'm enquiring about here.

                              Now this will take a little imagination.. Roll the mount backwards and look at the spacing of the bolt holes and where they'd be positioned approximately...

                              That's why I'm hyped about it.. I had a look at the f series I have and its looking close for the bolt hole layout...

                              I'll get a photo of the mount layout up so you guys can compare..

                              Now keep in mind.. Its not exact, just a guestimate.


                              Sent from the depths of hell.
                              Last edited by jawbraeka; 03-04-2014, 08:29 PM.
                              Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                              Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                              Avg Economy:
                              Highway - 7.32L/100km
                              City - yet to be determined.

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                              • #30


                                Now.. I don't want to get hopes up.. My theory now "is the proposed mount wide enough..?"

                                As you can see the mount and bolt hole layout is pretty close in terms of visualizing alone.

                                Sent from the depths of hell.
                                Last edited by jawbraeka; 03-04-2014, 08:46 PM.
                                Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                                Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

                                Avg Economy:
                                Highway - 7.32L/100km
                                City - yet to be determined.

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