These are incredibly helpful, thank you very much for sharing. This should help when it comes time to mount mine.
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That's crazy they had no crash bar at all. I was thinking how the heck would they attach but those brackets attache like the crash bar without the center!
Learn something new every day.
There was a guy in another thread saying there cars didn't get the crash bar . It's crazy to think but I've never tore into a car that wasn't from or imported to the usa.
mazda 121s seem to have come with both style bumpers. i've seen both types on cars for sale in AU and UK so maybe it depends on the year or area of the country. the mazda parts books designate the narrow bumpers as "hard" and the ones with crash bar and foam as "soft"
the only festivas that had a hard (narrow) bumper were on lower trim mazda built JDM cars.. also, some of the earliest kia prides also had the narrow style.
the major difference between both other than size are weight and attachment. the narrow bumpers eliminate the crash bar and foam. the narrow rear bumper is attached directly to the rear apron and fender. the front bumper is actually composed of 2 pieces. the upper plastic cover and lower metal apron are joined and attached to the radiator support via 2 brackets and to the fenders. not much crash protection but probably about 80# of weight savings combined front and rear and about 4" less overall car length.
4GREEN still had the front metal apron and brackets available a few years ago which even though not mazda parts were identical to them. also, except for a few grommets, most of the special attachment hardware was still available from mazda and kia.
here are a few pics showing differences between 5mph and narrow death trap versions.
front (shows mounting brackets)
rear
i think ALL the rear bumpers came with cutout for foglamp. on left for LHD countries. on right for RHD ones. no notch for exhaust since these are also a little less taller than 5mph covers and exhaust pipe exits just below cover.
notice 4 holes along top. this is for bolts that go into grommets in body. the narrow bumps have 2 recessed grooves vs 1 on 5mph bumps. if you choose to put the red tape stripes on, they go in the lower groove to be factory correct.
front cover with 4G apron and brackets
some parts diagrams showing attachment. these show both types. if i can get time i'll try to make a list of hardware #s that can be gotten from mazda and kia. most is nuts & bolts & screws but some , like T-bolts would be hard to find at autozone.
Do you recall the PN for the 4green front apron by chance?
Apron KK19852900
bracket L KK19850090
brakcet R KK19850080
still shows up on 4G site. in fact the price is now $11 less than when i bought and brackets $4 less. grab a bargain.
4G also still lists the bumper covers but i wouldn't buy unless they could send you a picture of the actual part. the kia parts catalog is showing these bumper numbers as applying to model year 1997-2000 but i've never seen a late model pride with these bumpers. the bumper #s given for pre-1997 cars is no longer listed and i suspect those would've been the ones you'd want.
JDMSTIVA - Rest in Peace. Festiva of the Month, May '16 - Best Beater & Bad Luck Award, FMX - (Build Thread)
JDMSTIVA V2 - Racecar, Showcar, Work in Progress - (Build Thread)
1990 LX - B6D swapped, mostly stock.
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