aspire/rio knuckle comparison

[DuritzCrows17]

I am sure 15's would fit because your spare tire most likley is a 15.

[FB71]

Hyundai aquired Kia in 1998, so proliferation of Hyundai engineering (hacked-up Mitsubishi) didn't really occur for 3 or 4 years. So Kia's Mazda based parts continued relatively unchanged till about '01-'02

[Safety Guy]

It's possible the front brake change in model year '02 was due to some consolidation of parts between the two makes.

Karl

[Safety Guy]

No, probably not. I found a Kia Forum site and here is one thread:

http://www.kia-forums.com/1g-2g-2001-2005-rio/42058-wheel-baring-hub.html

One guy says the only difference between the first Rio hubs and the late '02 model is that the lug bolts changed to lug studs.

We shall see.

Karl

[Damkid]

I am very interested to see if Rio rotors will bolt onto Aspire Hubs, if it's possible i'll be ordering some new parts :lol:

[F3BZ]

pic shows rio knuckle diagram. part#5 is the spacer. same for all rio's 2000-05. upper pic shows bolt style hub. applies to rio's built from 5/10/00-7/01/02. lower pic shows stud style hub. applies to rio's built between 7/01/02-6/15/05. hubs are not interchangable. there are 21 shim sizes. if you need part#'s for any rio parts i will post.

[25Horseplay]

there are 21 shim sizes. if you need part#'s for any rio parts i will post

Didn't the Festiva have 21 different shims also???

[Damkid]

it almost seems like this is one of those situations where you need to try it out

so would it be worth while for me (since i have the aspire swap on my car) to buy a rotor for a Rio and see if it will bolt on to my car?

worst case senerio is i have to return the rotor and get my money back

[DuritzCrows17]

yeah I think its just gonna be a matter of time until somebody buys one and trys it out.

[scitzz]

does the rio knuckle have the same goofy bearing setup as the aspire/festiva ?

[FB71]

to answer your question, yes.

Now, I have a question.

Why does everyone think this bearing configuration is goofy?

Taper roller bearing require a certain amount of preload to operate correctly. The select-fit shim configuration is the most reliable method to set preload. While it is an inconvienience to us while replacing the bearings, I really wouldn't call it goofy. I'm guessing noone here has rebuilt Dana axles? The light duty axles use a crush sleeve (same as Ford and GM, Stirling Axle and American Axle), but the heavier duty axles, like the 60, 80, 90, S110 and S135, use select-fit shims. Ok, I'm done my rant...

[DuritzCrows17]

Yeah I agree Jim, I guess everyone just has there own preferences but I am sorta partial to these bearings, oh well.

[tekamadrid]

Hey, I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but how hard is the swap from the festiva to the aspire/rio setup. What is involved...?

[DuritzCrows17]

well the aspire is a direct bolt up, you use festiva lower control arms/ ball joints and you use aspire/323 tie rod ends.

[scitzz]

I prefer an easier setup to deal with, and have no clue how to change these bearings